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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4780 on: June 15, 2022, 01:43:23 PM »

We got the codes via the packing slip in each box so even those who didn’t email it we still got it

And since there is no barcode for them we scanned consoles in at full deal price

sorry, i was not aware it was owned by you.
they put a code in each box that got delivered?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4782 on: June 20, 2022, 12:20:19 PM »
Anyone else having trouble reaching closeoutnj  ?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4783 on: June 20, 2022, 12:23:41 PM »
Anyone else having trouble reaching closeoutnj  ?
He's online on WhatsApp...+1 (845) 367-3914

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4784 on: June 20, 2022, 12:26:20 PM »
He's online on WhatsApp...+1 (845) 367-3914
thanks!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4785 on: June 20, 2022, 12:29:10 PM »
thanks!
Please let me know if you get thru to him.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4786 on: June 20, 2022, 01:04:36 PM »
Juat got a response to an email so didn't have to try...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4787 on: July 11, 2022, 11:26:06 AM »
Who buys below cost deals? Are people really that desperate for MS?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4788 on: July 11, 2022, 11:27:05 AM »
Who buys below cost deals? Are people really that desperate for MS?
If you get 5% back it may be worth it
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4789 on: July 11, 2022, 11:31:45 AM »
If you get 5% back it may be worth it
Some of these are a good 7-8% below cost

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« Reply #4790 on: July 11, 2022, 11:35:54 AM »
Some of these are a good 7-8% below cost

Examples?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Examples?
Saw one last week - forgot which one

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4792 on: July 11, 2022, 11:47:57 AM »
Who buys below cost deals? Are people really that desperate for MS?
There's a sucker for everything. 

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4793 on: July 11, 2022, 11:53:05 AM »
Some of these are a good 7-8% below cost

That’s crazy. Can these people do my shopping for me too?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4794 on: July 11, 2022, 12:49:39 PM »
Examples?
I think if you have the Amazon card 5% back,  it's worth it

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4795 on: July 11, 2022, 12:56:24 PM »
Think with 5% card &/or cashback sites &/or store points there's still some (miniscule) profit attainable. It's been a consistent decline from the good ole days when one could get 5% (or more) commission on deals. I remember the shock when they lowered commissions to 0 then negative territory... I guess if people figure out how to stay profitable groups will keep lowering to help their own bottom line until it doesn't work anymore and commissions need to go back up.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4796 on: July 11, 2022, 01:28:20 PM »
Some of these are a good 7-8% below cost
The Amazon card gives 10% back on Amazon devices so it could be that was the deal you saw
120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4797 on: July 11, 2022, 03:20:56 PM »
Some of these are a good 7-8% below cost
Either the price changed by the time you checked, or it was a deal with 10 or even 20% back. No ones buying a regular deal at 7-8% off.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4798 on: July 11, 2022, 11:11:08 PM »
For status, new card spend etc it's sometimes worth it

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4799 on: July 12, 2022, 10:14:04 AM »
This is pretty cool!


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