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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5000 on: April 25, 2023, 03:43:47 PM »
They pay fast and they're reliable. Lots of theft to DE and lots of below cost deals.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5001 on: April 25, 2023, 10:18:14 PM »
Where do the BG resell all the merchandise?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5002 on: May 01, 2023, 10:17:54 PM »
Effective May 01 2023

The Deal Buyer has been acquired by www.BuyingGroup.com - the new site is up and running! Thank you for your patience throughout the process.

We are excited for this joint venture together and ensure to provide a better service with this new venture. The new site is an upgraded system for a better member experience!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5003 on: May 01, 2023, 10:35:45 PM »
Effective May 01 2023

The Deal Buyer has been acquired by www.BuyingGroup.com - the new site is up and running! Thank you for your patience throughout the process.

We are excited for this joint venture together and ensure to provide a better service with this new venture. The new site is an upgraded system for a better member experience!


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Except where they're actually located...

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With multiple warehouses in the Portland California area,

This ends well.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5004 on: May 01, 2023, 11:09:01 PM »
Except where they're actually located...

This ends well.
Lol!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5005 on: May 02, 2023, 06:36:43 PM »
NEWARK, N.J. – An Ocean County, New Jersey, man today admitted that he illegally laundered the proceeds of a wire fraud scheme, U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger announced.

 41, of Lakewood, New Jersey, pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge Kevin McNulty to an information charging him with money laundering.

According to documents filed in the case and statements made in court:

He  made or caused others to make numerous fraudulent financial transactions through at least two entities that he  formed and established as merchants that used multiple credit card processing companies. These transactions resulted in more than $1 million in losses to a multinational financial services corporation that specialized in payment cards. He  laundered portions of the proceeds of this scheme, including through an approximately $500,000 wire transfer from a bank account under his control.

The charge of money laundering is punishable by a maximum potential penalty of 10 years in prison and a fine $250,000, or twice the gross profits or gross loss suffered by the victims, whichever is greatest. Sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 8, 2023.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5006 on: May 02, 2023, 06:39:23 PM »
I don't understand what happened here.


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5007 on: May 02, 2023, 08:45:42 PM »
I don't understand what happened here.
A New Jersey man has admitted in court that he was the leader of scheme that robbed a financial services company of more than $1 million.
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« Reply #5008 on: May 02, 2023, 08:53:00 PM »
A New Jersey man has admitted in court that he was the leader of scheme that robbed a financial services company of more than $1 million.
That I understood. But what actually happened? There are no details at all. Is this real theft, or they came up with some convoluted way to calculate damages to make it look much worse. Etc.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5009 on: May 02, 2023, 08:57:48 PM »
That I understood. But what actually happened? There are no details at all. Is this real theft, or they came up with some convoluted way to calculate damages to make it look much worse. Etc.
I'm assuming it's one of the recent failed swiping schemes in which locals swiped and then disputed the charges.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5010 on: May 02, 2023, 09:05:42 PM »
I'm assuming it's one of the recent failed swiping schemes in which locals swiped and then disputed the charges.
Schemes, plural?! How dumb are people!?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5011 on: May 02, 2023, 10:22:42 PM »
I'm assuming it's one of the recent failed swiping schemes in which locals swiped and then disputed the charges.
No idea of what you're referring to. Locals disputed because something went wrong? Or they swiped in order to dispute in the first place?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5012 on: May 02, 2023, 10:24:41 PM »
No idea of what you're referring to. Locals disputed because something went wrong? Or they swiped in order to dispute in the first place?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5013 on: May 02, 2023, 10:27:55 PM »
Yes
Lol, now I'm glad that I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5014 on: May 02, 2023, 10:31:20 PM »
NEWARK, N.J. – An Ocean County, New Jersey, man today admitted that he illegally laundered the proceeds of a wire fraud scheme, U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger announced.

 41, of Lakewood, New Jersey, pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge Kevin McNulty to an information charging him with money laundering.

According to documents filed in the case and statements made in court:

He  made or caused others to make numerous fraudulent financial transactions through at least two entities that he  formed and established as merchants that used multiple credit card processing companies. These transactions resulted in more than $1 million in losses to a multinational financial services corporation that specialized in payment cards. He  laundered portions of the proceeds of this scheme, including through an approximately $500,000 wire transfer from a bank account under his control.

The charge of money laundering is punishable by a maximum potential penalty of 10 years in prison and a fine $250,000, or twice the gross profits or gross loss suffered by the victims, whichever is greatest. Sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 8, 2023.



What's his username here?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5015 on: May 02, 2023, 10:32:33 PM »
Lol, now I'm glad that I have no idea what you're talking about.
Neither do i
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« Reply #5016 on: May 02, 2023, 11:51:54 PM »
What's his username here?

He’s “others” in the title of this thread.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5017 on: May 05, 2023, 01:00:41 PM »
Has anyone ever bought for uearnpoints.com (formerly known as swiftbuyinggroup)?
They seem to have tv deals that no other groups buy.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5018 on: May 14, 2023, 04:28:02 PM »
Has anyone ever bought for uearnpoints.com (formerly known as swiftbuyinggroup)?
They seem to have tv deals that no other groups buy.
I bought 24 TV's and sent to UEP. Fast scan and payment was quick too. This goes against my usual standard to send 1 item to new bg but my risk was rewarded..this time.

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« Reply #5019 on: May 15, 2023, 12:36:29 AM »
I bought 24 TV's and sent to UEP. Fast scan and payment was quick too. This goes against my usual standard to send 1 item to new bg but my risk was rewarded..this time.

Of course, but you only have five posts and just joined #shill