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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5140 on: August 29, 2023, 07:56:36 PM »
They’ve been a pleasure to deal with IME
They always are until they are not.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5141 on: August 29, 2023, 08:02:05 PM »
They always are until they are not.
And when they are not, remember to look at this thread title.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5142 on: August 29, 2023, 08:10:36 PM »
And when they are not, remember to look at this thread title.
Maybe we need a red flag thread. Seems to be a few lately.
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« Reply #5143 on: August 29, 2023, 08:26:16 PM »
"Join Date: Jul 2023 Posts: 0"

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5144 on: August 29, 2023, 11:54:20 PM »

Thank you
How were you able to get to such a high level of allowed commitments on D&R already?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5145 on: August 30, 2023, 09:13:06 AM »
How were you able to get to such a high level of allowed commitments on D&R already?
It was a lot of laptop deals which add up fast

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5146 on: August 30, 2023, 09:45:39 AM »
Anyone ever think that BGs could really just be one big laundering operation? Got the hallmarks of it - large cash amounts, low profit percentage, very good at obscuring where money is coming from or going
How exactly is the laundering happening? There's no "cash" per se, sounds more like a ponzi
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5148 on: August 30, 2023, 10:27:55 AM »
Maybe @chaim1 works or owns d&r so he has connections
Who knows

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5149 on: August 30, 2023, 12:22:21 PM »
Totally legit  ;)
Maybe @chaim1 works or owns d&r so he has connections
Who knows
But but the screenshot..

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« Reply #5150 on: August 30, 2023, 12:33:15 PM »
Maybe @chaim1 works or owns d&r so he has connections
Who knows
I don't get the big deal I'm just another guy that does buying groups and recently joined ddf.
Unless maybe I also own closeout and bfmr ;)




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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5151 on: August 30, 2023, 03:53:02 PM »
But but the screenshot..
Add me to the club  ;D




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Add me to the club  ;D




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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5154 on: August 30, 2023, 10:04:13 PM »
These screenshots are rivaling Indian scammers

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5156 on: August 30, 2023, 10:33:02 PM »
Having serious issues with MYS. Checks not coming for a while after their already ridiculous timelines... Tickets getting responded to after a few days. "They forwarded my concern to the financial dept". LOL. Like it's some corporate office.
Aaaand I got the big (10k) check. Still waiting on others, but theyre not that big. I think I'm sticking with PM from now on. Most reliable one I've dealt with by far.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5157 on: August 31, 2023, 02:35:32 AM »
Wow all this Photoshopping, I'm beginning to doubt HG's phishing emails :P

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5158 on: August 31, 2023, 11:02:41 AM »
Wow all this Photoshopping, I'm beginning to doubt HG's phishing emails :P
Quick tip... No Photoshop experience needed...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5159 on: September 02, 2023, 11:11:35 PM »
Has anyone tried virtual mailing addresses in Delaware with mail forwarding services for bg’s?
If yes is it worth it? Can anyone recommend a specific brand?