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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5180 on: September 21, 2023, 02:08:13 PM »
anyone know anything about these guys? https://www.linkedin.com/company/deal-and-runner/people/
Pinny's been in the game for a long time. Had his own place called Pinnacle, which closed recently and he joined D&R.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5181 on: September 21, 2023, 08:58:48 PM »
@Cat18 Any update on this?
@Danlover111 update on my situation.
new checks were provided, so made whole minus bank fees for bounced checks. BG's excuse being that they changed banks between issuance date and cashing date. while that is plausible and i would have accepted their story at face value, their total lack of communication for days until i found them on Discord is worrisome.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5182 on: September 21, 2023, 09:17:25 PM »
@Danlover111 update on my situation.
new checks were provided, so made whole minus bank fees for bounced checks. BG's excuse being that they changed banks between issuance date and cashing date. while that is plausible and i would have accepted their story at face value, their total lack of communication for days until i found them on Discord is worrisome.
Wait? They didn't cover the bank fee?

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PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5183 on: September 21, 2023, 10:15:23 PM »
@Danlover111 update on my situation.
new checks were provided, so made whole minus bank fees for bounced checks. BG's excuse being that they changed banks between issuance date and cashing date. while that is plausible and i would have accepted their story at face value, their total lack of communication for days until i found them on Discord is worrisome.
And they're changing banks yet again.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5184 on: September 21, 2023, 10:42:06 PM »
...their total lack of communication for days until i found them on Discord is worrisome.
Red Falg
Wait? They didn't cover the bank fee?
Red Flag
And they're changing banks yet again.
Red Flag
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5185 on: September 22, 2023, 08:45:38 AM »
@Danlover111 update on my situation.
BG's excuse being that they changed banks between issuance date and cashing date. while that is plausible and i would have accepted their story at face value,
@Cat18
What was issuance date? was it way back before signature bank fiasco or after that?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5186 on: October 13, 2023, 12:05:53 AM »
Trying to get involved in buying groups seems like there is money to be made if done smartly and carefully. Have not had much success in getting orders through. Can somebody with Bekius of this topic to a big Mitzvah and private message me a rundown? Would be a big help.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5187 on: October 13, 2023, 12:16:08 AM »
Trying to get involved in buying groups seems like there is money to be made if done smartly and carefully. Have not had much success in getting orders through. Can somebody with Bekius of this topic to a big Mitzvah and private message me a rundown? Would be a big help.
Don't believe everything you hear...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5188 on: October 15, 2023, 03:49:34 PM »
Does Anyone here try shipping to home and then shipping to the group? Is there a way to get around paying tax?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5189 on: October 15, 2023, 05:11:25 PM »
Does Anyone here try shipping to home and then shipping to the group? Is there a way to get around paying tax?
Yes. LLC

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5190 on: October 15, 2023, 06:19:41 PM »
Yes. LLC
No need for LLC to get a reseller cert.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5191 on: October 15, 2023, 09:26:11 PM »
No need for LLC to get a reseller cert.
Really…learn something new everyday.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5192 on: October 15, 2023, 10:27:46 PM »
Do all retailers offer LLC? How easy are they to get?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5193 on: October 16, 2023, 12:54:33 AM »
Do all retailers offer LLC? How easy are they to get?

Oy vay..! Nebech on your accountant

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5194 on: November 07, 2023, 07:21:12 PM »
anyone not receive payment from closeoutnj waiting for my ach for a while already<>>

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5195 on: November 08, 2023, 12:54:17 AM »
anyone not receive payment from closeoutnj waiting for my ach for a while already<>>
How long? 2 weeks or so can be normal.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5196 on: November 20, 2023, 02:40:46 PM »
Anyone have experience with a missing package from USA Buying Group? Was delivered a week and a half ago...

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« Reply #5197 on: November 22, 2023, 07:59:48 PM »
Anyone have experience with a missing package from USA Buying Group? Was delivered a week and a half ago...
G’luck

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5198 on: November 22, 2023, 09:43:36 PM »
G’luck
Do they just sweep them under for extra cash?!!

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« Reply #5199 on: November 22, 2023, 09:45:15 PM »
Who knows
Do it as a tax write off