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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5520 on: March 18, 2024, 02:30:52 PM »
I do much less but in my experience if tracking does not show it was delivered Amazon has refunded me even though it was to a buying group. Maybe because it was only $340 purchase. It was an Apple product so they made me wait a month before they issued a refund.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5521 on: March 18, 2024, 02:49:43 PM »
Has anyone done the Trump Doral gift card deals for buying groups?

Anything to watch out for?

have done it with pm and always went smoothly.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5522 on: March 19, 2024, 07:43:58 PM »
Any recent data on buymeforretail?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5523 on: March 19, 2024, 08:00:25 PM »
Any recent data on buymeforretail?
Been ok for a few not too big ones for me recently

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5524 on: March 20, 2024, 11:10:46 PM »
Anyone else having issues getting paid by MYS buying group? They keep telling me to check in next week but its been well over a month...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5525 on: March 20, 2024, 11:16:57 PM »
Anyone else having issues getting paid by MYS buying group? They keep telling me to check in next week but its been well over a month...
+1. 3 months

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5526 on: March 21, 2024, 12:35:11 PM »
Anyone else having issues getting paid by MYS buying group? They keep telling me to check in next week but its been well over a month...
you basically need to harass them. REALIZE THEY ARE USING YOU MORE FOR THE INTEREST FREE LOAN THAN THE SOURCING OF INVENTORY SO THEY TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5527 on: March 21, 2024, 01:54:49 PM »
When I complained they answered "well you buy very little for us"

I answered, "You owe me the $ and maybe it's because you don't pay, I buy for others"

They never answered but I finally got paid.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5528 on: April 17, 2024, 12:03:49 AM »
MYS hasn't paid me in over 4 months now. BS reason that "banks delays", so now they switched banks and everything will be just amazing if I wait another month.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5529 on: April 17, 2024, 12:24:52 AM »
MYS hasn't paid me in over 4 months now. BS reason that "banks delays", so now they switched banks and everything will be just amazing if I wait another month.

We’re almost at the end” R”L.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5530 on: April 17, 2024, 12:28:04 AM »
“We’re almost at the end” R”L.
I find myself saying those 5 words whenever I hear or see an obvious scam. Maybe I need to take a break from DDF.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5531 on: April 17, 2024, 03:57:24 AM »
A family member of mine has $3k worth of ipads delivered to MYS ,They say they never got it , amazon will not refund because it shows it was delivered.
He Chatted with amazon 4 times...
Any advice?
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He disputed it with chase and after 35 days he won!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5532 on: April 17, 2024, 04:45:56 AM »
Update,
He disputed it with chase and after 35 days he won!
RIP his Amazon accounts and cards

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5533 on: April 17, 2024, 09:07:48 AM »
RIP his Amazon accounts and cards
interesting that you say that, because I always heard the same but a friend of mine disputed and won about 6 months ago and hasn't had any issues with his account or credit.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5534 on: April 17, 2024, 09:39:11 AM »
MYS hasn't paid me in over 4 months now. BS reason that "banks delays", so now they switched banks and everything will be just amazing if I wait another month.

how much have you made from MYS over the last few years?

how much is the interest on the balance you are holding? (if you are.)

Was it worth it?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5535 on: April 17, 2024, 09:44:13 AM »
With these buying clubs is it a question of when and not if (they go under)?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5536 on: April 17, 2024, 10:52:52 AM »
With these buying clubs is it a question of when and not if (they go under)?

BG's go under when the big end buyer funding the operation runs into financial distress for any particular reason.

That isn't a necessarily a rare occurrence, but why should that be a "when" scenario?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5537 on: April 17, 2024, 10:57:25 AM »
With these buying clubs is it a question of when and not if (they go under)?
Like most good things in life...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5538 on: April 17, 2024, 12:15:43 PM »
BG's go under when the big end buyer funding the operation runs into financial distress for any particular reason.

That isn't a necessarily a rare occurrence, but why should that be a "when" scenario?
You want to make more money. You spread yourself to thin and it is just a matter of time.
There might be legals reasons/disputes. There are a ton a reasons. 
Not going to go into the nefarious reason as I will be accused of something I never said.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5539 on: April 17, 2024, 12:41:04 PM »
MYS hasn't paid me in over 4 months now. BS reason that "banks delays", so now they switched banks and everything will be just amazing if I wait another month.
And of course comments on FT blaming on the “Rabbis” that run the buying group and claiming that members of the community are getting paid…