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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5620 on: June 02, 2024, 02:30:50 PM »
Either say it or don't
I heard that he put all his money in real estate and didn't leave any money in the business. I heard that he liquidated some properties to pay people back.
Just between his house and shul that he's building us millions of dollars

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5621 on: June 02, 2024, 05:18:33 PM »
New to this, I have 60k to spend to meet minimums, what’s the safest site?
You were irresponsible in getting yourself into this situation.

Ask your friends and relatives WHO YOU'RE CERTAIN WILL PAY YOU BACK if you can prepay their gas and electric bills.  This may be good for a few thousand.

Do any have big bills you can pay  for them? (I'm assuming you're a single guy.)
Make your parent(s) authorized users and ask them to pay all their bills on line.

Do you have the cashflow to float this much?
Pay your taxes ahead. You'll get a refund a year from now.
But 60K is a large amount. 
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5622 on: June 02, 2024, 07:12:06 PM »
You were irresponsible in getting yourself into this situation.

Ask your friends and relatives WHO YOU'RE CERTAIN WILL PAY YOU BACK if you can prepay their gas and electric bills.  This may be good for a few thousand.

Do any have big bills you can pay  for them? (I'm assuming you're a single guy.)
Make your parent(s) authorized users and ask them to pay all their bills on line.

Do you have the cashflow to float this much?
Pay your taxes ahead. You'll get a refund a year from now.
But 60K is a large amount.
generally not a good idea to signup for 4 amex biz platinums at once ;). are you at least doing 250k/300k offer?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5623 on: June 02, 2024, 11:13:03 PM »

New to this, I have 60k to spend to meet minimums, what’s the safest site?
generally not a good idea to signup for 4 amex biz platinums at once. are you at least doing 250k/300k offer?
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Re: Buying groups.
« Reply #5624 on: July 30, 2024, 12:03:15 PM »
Does target ship to Delaware? any issues?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5625 on: July 30, 2024, 05:26:03 PM »
pretty sure amazon is the only one that ships direct with no issues.
bestnuy maybe if you season the account well some have succeeded

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5627 on: July 31, 2024, 12:45:13 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/letter-ltoeles-harabim-2/#comment-958789
I'd love to know the details here. How does someone get themselves that far into debt playing this game?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5628 on: July 31, 2024, 09:31:27 PM »
I'd love to know the details here. How does someone get themselves that far into debt playing this game?
its not from playing the game, it is from not being responsible about credit. Playing the game just magnifies the issue.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5629 on: July 31, 2024, 09:45:26 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/letter-ltoeles-harabim-2/#comment-958789
Interesting letter, glad they posted it.
A sentiment I fully agree with (my comments are upthread)
however, 1) did they actually charge people to help them?
2) vhaikar, the guy ends up with a rambling rant, won't actually help anyone who didn't already get it before. A clear explanation of these guys' racket would have been helpful.

For my part Ive taken down people's (unauthorized) signs in my shul for similar things (acorns for example).

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5630 on: August 09, 2024, 05:32:12 PM »

Begun, the card war has.



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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5631 on: August 10, 2024, 11:55:48 PM »
If any one need help meeting the spending requirements I can help, just send make me an authorized user....

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5632 on: August 11, 2024, 09:33:02 AM »
If any one need help meeting the spending requirements I can help, just send make me an authorized user....
lol

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5633 on: August 11, 2024, 12:52:33 PM »
If any one need help meeting the spending requirements I can help, just send make me an authorized user....
Sure, just post your name, dob, address, ssn and mother's maiden name

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5634 on: August 15, 2024, 02:11:04 PM »
Seem the average time for payback is more than a month now.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5635 on: August 15, 2024, 02:12:30 PM »
Seem the average time for payback is more than a month now.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5637 on: August 29, 2024, 11:07:38 AM »
Seem the average time for payback is more than a month now.
buyerforpoints is about 2 months behind. I requested payment to be expedited via a ticket from 7/8 and am still waiting.
PM is a bit less than 1 month behind. (waiting for a payment request on 8/4).
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5638 on: September 03, 2024, 02:41:40 PM »

Speaks for itself…..
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5639 on: September 03, 2024, 02:48:26 PM »

Speaks for itself…..
And on literally the same page…
“In G-d we trust; all others must bring data”
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