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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #140 on: January 07, 2014, 05:06:12 PM »
What is so complicated? This is one of the premises of a site called dansdeals.com You can make a lot of points and money by signing up to credit cards. Wow! That was complicated!

Maybe the chidush is that azoi vi dos is shayich tzu machen far de shvuger, oichet ken tuun far noch a mentsh! (?)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #141 on: January 07, 2014, 05:09:59 PM »
What is so complicated? This is one of the premises of a site called dansdeals.com You can make a lot of points and money by signing up to credit cards. Wow! That was complicated!

Maybe the chidush is that azoi vi dos is shayich tzu machen far de shvuger, oichet ken tuun far noch a mentsh! (?)
How about that guy earning referrals on each app? You didn't think about that, huh?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #143 on: January 07, 2014, 05:36:30 PM »
Where can i find the offer for gold? $500 in 3 months?
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« Reply #144 on: January 07, 2014, 05:37:33 PM »
And while we're at it, 1000 in 3 months for spg?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #145 on: January 07, 2014, 05:39:10 PM »
Found it...
This is different then the one we're referring to

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« Reply #146 on: January 07, 2014, 05:40:27 PM »
60k for the plat?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #147 on: January 07, 2014, 05:46:53 PM »
Those are Canadian offers ....

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #148 on: January 07, 2014, 06:44:51 PM »
There is a name on the offer someone should take him to a dark alley....
How many people's finance's do they have to ruin

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #149 on: January 07, 2014, 07:46:06 PM »
There is a name on the offer someone should take him to a dark alley....
How many people's finance's do they have to ruin?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #150 on: January 07, 2014, 07:48:57 PM »
Please, PM me? I am soooo curious.
Something tells me it's a little more then curiousity ;) ...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #151 on: January 07, 2014, 08:40:47 PM »
Are you that guy?
no, I'm just not getting the anger in this thread. There are bad people and good people doing this like everything in life.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #152 on: January 07, 2014, 08:47:28 PM »
no, I'm just not getting the anger in this thread. There are bad people and good people doing this like everything in life.

I am sure the people doing this are good people, but this business crosses the line IMO.

#justsayin

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #153 on: January 07, 2014, 09:48:14 PM »
i think there is another point missing here: some people build up a broad network of "clients" and they deal very honestly but once they get big enough and built enough trust they canat once mess over a ton of people and run off. i believe this is a common online sale scam

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #154 on: January 07, 2014, 10:59:54 PM »
i think there is another point missing here: some people build up a broad network of "clients" and they deal very honestly but once they get big enough and built enough trust they canat once mess over a ton of people and run off. i believe this is a common online sale scam
very valid point.  But don't you think that it's a bit over the top to write  let's take this guy to a dark alley?! Maybe the guy is honest. You gotta be careful before writing stuff like that IMO.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #155 on: January 07, 2014, 11:55:25 PM »
Will someone please explain already how this scheme works? :o

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #156 on: January 08, 2014, 12:02:12 AM »
Found it...
intereting... It says "up to $3,000" for a couple..
3 cards each - so, it's for 6 approved cards, incl. SPG, referrals, etc
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #157 on: January 08, 2014, 01:59:07 AM »
Wrong ad. They are offering as much as $5000 per couple. $100,000 for a shul or mosad in as little as 1 month. Trail of FR's is not an assumption- it is a fact. Lets just say there's a lot more MR points that can be finagled than people realize. 08701 is a big target but these guys are milking it for all they can while the going is good. Lot of negative potential here.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #158 on: January 08, 2014, 02:00:50 AM »
Wrong ad. They are offering as much as $5000 per couple. $100,000 for a shul or mosad in as little as 1 month. Trail of FR's is not an assumption- it is a fact. Lets just say there's a lot more MR points that can be finagled than people realize. 08701 is a big target but these guys are milking it for all they can while the going is good. Lot of negative potential here.

Damn it! I cannot wrap my head around how this scheme works!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #159 on: January 08, 2014, 02:24:00 AM »
Damn it! I cannot wrap my head around how this scheme works!
Give it up, man! No one with an IQ of 50+ is gonna post it on DDF. Seriously...