B"DE Menachem Shtark

[Baruch]

Probably because many ethnic and racial groups have been targeted over the years.

Think of North Korea, they have concentration camps that are still up and running!! And no one has a clue what's going on there.

what's your point?

My whole point was that it's great that Count Valentine would take it as an offense that the Yated editor accused Americans of anti semitism.
60 years ago many an American would look at being anti Jew and anti Black as an honor.

[Baruch]

I'm talking about 2014 America vs Germany

You started your comment with the statement that what i said was completely false.

Well I was talking about 60 years ago.

[Baruch]

It is really sad you believe this.

Just one more point: I put America in parentheses, because I meant that my point was only partially true in America. 

[Baruch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism_in_the_United_States

From Wikipedia:

American attitudes towards Jews[edit]
Antisemitism in the United States was also indicated by national public opinion polls taken from the mid nineteen thirties to the late nineteen forties. The results showed that over half the American population saw Jews as greedy and dishonest. These polls also found that many Americans believed that Jews were too powerful in the United States. Similar polls were also taken, one of which posed that 35-40 percent of the population was prepared to accept an anti-Jewish campaign.
In a 1938 poll, approximately 60 percent of the respondents held a low opinion of Jews, labeling them “greedy,” “dishonest,” and “pushy.”[23] 41 percent of respondents agreed that Jews had "too much power in the United States," and this figure rose to 58 percent by 1945. In 1939 a Roper poll found that only thirty-nine percent of Americans felt that Jews should be treated like other people. Fifty-three percent believed that "Jews are different and should be restricted" and ten percent believed that Jews should be deported.[24] Several surveys taken from 1940 to 1946 found that Jews were seen as a greater threat to the welfare of the United States than any other national, religious, or racial group.[25]
Although only 0.6 percent of the nation's 93,000 commercial bankers in 1939 were Jewish,[citation needed] the idea that Jews controlled the banking system remained a popular myth. Political antisemitism also was high during the war years, with 23 percent of respondents in one 1945 survey saying they would vote for a congressional candidate if the candidate declared "himself as being against the Jews" and as many as 35 percent saying it would not affect their vote. Jews also noted the influence of antisemitism when the U.S. State Department opposed efforts to lower immigration barriers to admit Jews and other refugees fleeing the Holocaust and Nazi-occupied Europe.
Thus, antisemitism was fairly widespread in the U.S, a sentiment which reduced the inclination of Americans to help the Jews in Europe.

[efflpetzel]

Who didn't want us dead?

True and powerful...

http://www.vosizneias.com/151797/2014/01/09/new-york-oped-understanding-the-yated-editorial-about-anti-semitism/

[CountValentine]

My whole point was that it's great that Count Valentine would take it as an offense that the Yated editor accused Americans of anti semitism.

My point was if the headlines in the NYP article meant that everyone wanted Menachem Shtark dead then the headline in this article meant all Gentiles want all Jews dead. Both of those interpretations are just plain insane and wrong.

[efflpetzel]

Yated = NYPost with a yarmulke on top. both are rags i would wipe my a** with

[CountValentine]

Yated = NYPost with a yarmulke on top. both are rags i would wipe my a** with

Now that explains everything.

[Baruch]

My point was if the headlines in the NYP article meant that everyone wanted Menachem Shtark dead then the headline in this article meant all Gentiles want all Jews dead. Both of those interpretations are just plain insane and wrong.

I agree with you. That article was way over the top. WAY over the top.

What were you referring to, when you said it was sad that I believed?


 

[Baruch]

Yated = NYPost with a yarmulke on top. both are rags i would wipe my a** with

lol

[CountValentine]

What were you referring to, when you said it was sad that I believed?

You basically said 60 years ago everyone HATED Jews. 

[Baruch]

You basically said 60 years ago everyone HATED Jews. 

That was not my intention. What I was trying to say was that 60 years ago, that editorial would have been justified. Because in Europe and on a smaller scale (but still a shockingly large scale) in America, anti semitism was rampant.

[CountValentine]

That was not my intention. What I was trying to say was that 60 years ago, that editorial would have been justified. Because in Europe and on a smaller scale (but still a shockingly large scale) in America, anti semitism was rampant.

Fair enough but let’s not confuse anti semitism with wanting someone dead. Maybe my views are just off the wall as usual. 

[efflpetzel]

Maybe my views are just off the wall as usual. 

your views are fine.

 some jews have siege mentality

[shmuelb]

Wireless is good for a baby monitor, not a surveillance camera.

Wireless automatically means bad quality unless you want to have it custom built, which will end up costing you far more than installing a wired system. In general, nobody uses wireless in the surveillance industry unless you are working for the FBI.

It's not that difficult to drill a hole through the exterior wall of your home and install a camera. If you don't want to do it, a local handy guy would prob do it for around $100.

It also doesn't hurt to get a quote from a pro and to compare prices.

Thanks! I do not work for the FBI. I do not want someone to see the camera and rip it off, damage it, or somehow reach the DVR and do something to it. I had an idea, to make a decoy camera, broken/fake and accessible, and have it covered by other hidden cameras. This way you have a warning, and if they mess with it, they will see it is fake and get busted without them knowing that there is also a real camera.

What companies make good equipment? My wife reminded me, we have an uncle who works in the industry, I will try to get feedback from him too.

[yoshi]

what's your point?

My whole point was that it's great that Count Valentine would take it as an offense that the Yated editor accused Americans of anti semitism.
60 years ago many an American would look at being anti Jew and anti Black as an honor.

Sorry to bring light to a serious conversation, but I find it hilarious when having a serious conversation we have to quote some people as count valentine. Kind of makes it hard to take anyone seriously.

[SamKey]

Yated = NYPost with a yarmulke on top. both are rags i would wipe my a** with

ROFLMAO! Quote of the month!

[meshugener]

Sorry to bring light to a serious conversation, but I find it hilarious when having a serious conversation we have to quote some people as count valentine. Kind of makes it hard to take anyone seriously.

Respect for senior DDFers or I will show you the door from the other side.

[aygart]

One thing about the headlines only (didn't, and probably won't read the whole articles) is that the NYP's "didn't" in past tense still refers to the didn't story, while in an article about general anti-Semitism the pay tense would mean historical anti-Semitism while current sentiments would be present tense. Also, the headline is an obvious play on the NYP headline and should be taken as such.

[SamKey]

 

Sorry to bring light to a serious conversation, but I find it hilarious when having a serious conversation we have to quote some people as count valentine. Kind of makes it hard to take anyone seriously.