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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #720 on: July 20, 2016, 10:19:36 AM »
You heard Ivanka is no longer a Jew.
Converted to Islam?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #721 on: July 20, 2016, 10:30:11 AM »
who is a Jew is a very serious issue and many here will not take it as a joke.
It should be a serious issue and that is why it was hotly debated in another thread. Lets remember that is JS.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #722 on: July 20, 2016, 10:31:27 AM »
Converted to Islam?
who is a Jew is a very serious issue and many here will not take it as a joke.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #723 on: July 20, 2016, 10:32:34 AM »
Converted to Islam?

Doesn't seem like there was any קבלת עול מצוות.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #724 on: July 20, 2016, 10:37:29 AM »
It should be a serious issue and that is why it was hotly debated in another thread. Lets remember that is JS.
Wasn't that other thread also in JS? I thought JS was reserved for religious discussions.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #725 on: July 20, 2016, 10:39:23 AM »
I thought DDF was reserved for religious discussions.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #726 on: July 20, 2016, 10:46:57 AM »
Doesn't seem like there was any קבלת עול מצוות.
I happen to meet someone around 20 years ago that was converted by the same Rabbi that converted Ivanka and he also was not Mikabel Mitzvos. In my opinion Rabbi L was just interested in the payment he received.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #727 on: July 20, 2016, 11:16:43 AM »
Doesn't seem like there was any קבלת עול מצוות.
Who told you so? Ms. Trump or Rabbi Lookstein? Or someone else who was there?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #728 on: July 20, 2016, 11:17:55 AM »
I am doing my best to not make this about any one religion. Many religions have their own laws/rules. My point is it does not matter if you or I feel someone broke those laws/rules or is not following them. In the end we have no say so in the matter.
But this IS about one religion. You are missing something fundamental about Judaism. It was set up by G-d in way that allows, and requires, human intervention. There are many areas of Jewish law that depend fully upon the actions, declarations and acknowledgements of human beings. Conversion is one of those areas.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #729 on: July 20, 2016, 11:32:35 AM »
Who told you so? Ms. Trump or Rabbi Lookstein? Or someone else who was there?
As I mentioned i know from another convert that he does not require קבלת עול מצוות.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #730 on: July 20, 2016, 11:41:54 AM »
I happen to meet someone around 20 years ago that was converted by the same Rabbi that converted Ivanka and he also was not Mikabel Mitzvos. In my opinion Rabbi L was just interested in the payment he received.
Seems like she is very serious about Judiasm. And the parts she doesn't keep (tznius) her whole community doesn't keep. And I've heard that many (big time) poskim (IIRC Rav Moshe and Rav Elyashiv) hold that is enough for a geirus. (Because she doesn't know better, being that her whole community acts that way).

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #731 on: July 20, 2016, 11:46:02 AM »
As I mentioned i know from another convert that he does not require קבלת עול מצוות.
R Lookstein has said, that he personally doesn't require קבלת עול מצוות, but Ivanka was mekabel.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #732 on: July 20, 2016, 11:51:20 AM »
R Lookstein has said, that he personally doesn't require קבלת עול מצוות, but Ivanka was mekabel.

And it doesn't seem that it was sincere by judging her public conduct.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #733 on: July 20, 2016, 11:52:38 AM »
As I mentioned i know from another convert that he does not require קבלת עול מצוות.
A. That would be disgusting to say that someone didn't do kapolas ol mitzvos just because someone else you know was converted by the same Rabbi and didn't do kapolas ol mitzvos.

B. To say that an orthodox Rabbi does conversions without KOM, is like saying an orthodox kashrus agency is giving a hechsher on may that wasn't shechted. There's no way someone can get away with that fit so many decades and I'd venture to say that's false.

Maybe he doesn't require KOM up to your standard. Are you knowledgeable of all the intricate halachos of giyur? What is considered KOM? I'm not, but I know some of them and that I don't know many of them.

PS. This is not at all addressed to you personally rather to all those giving opinions either way on someone else's personal life without even knowing the facts involved.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #734 on: July 20, 2016, 11:53:52 AM »
Sorry to go OT (or maybe back on topic), but can we add Wrigley Field DO to the list?
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #735 on: July 20, 2016, 11:56:42 AM »
So I'm the outlier if I think she really is Jewish?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #736 on: July 20, 2016, 12:02:14 PM »
A. That would be disgusting to say that someone didn't do kapolas ol mitzvos just because someone else you know was converted by the same Rabbi and didn't do kapolas ol mitzvos.

B. To say that an orthodox Rabbi does conversions without KOM, is like saying an orthodox kashrus agency is giving a hechsher on may that wasn't shechted. There's no way someone can get away with that fit so many decades and I'd venture to say that's false.

Maybe he doesn't require KOM up to your standard. Are you knowledgeable of all the intricate halachos of giyur? What is considered KOM? I'm not, but I know some of them and that I don't know many of them.

PS. This is not at all addressed to you personally rather to all those giving opinions either way on someone else's personal life without even knowing the facts involved.
+1 (if you adjust all the typos)

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #737 on: July 20, 2016, 12:02:21 PM »
And it doesn't seem that it was sincere by judging her public conduct.
refer to my post above. many in her community are as religious as her, and that has halachic significance.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #738 on: July 20, 2016, 12:03:45 PM »

B. To say that an orthodox Rabbi does conversions without KOM, is like saying an orthodox kashrus agency is giving a hechsher on may that wasn't shechted. There's no way someone can get away with that fit so many decades and I'd venture to say that's false.


R Lookstein admits he doesn't think KOM is me'akev.
Do you know that his geiruses were just recently banned in Israel?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #739 on: July 20, 2016, 12:12:35 PM »
+1 (if you adjust all the typos)
Thanks. I usually read what I type before I post. This time I forgot. The thrills of auto type.

R Lookstein admits he doesn't think KOM is me'akev.
That's what I'm hearing now. And I'll admit and take back some of what I said.

Do you know that his geiruses were just recently banned in Israel?
I'm well aware. That's a whole different story. My personal opinion on the Israeli rabbinical courts and the way it's been politicized is getting lower and lower, but because I lack a lot of inside knowledge on the matter, I try not to voice my opinion to loud.


And about that
Are any news outlets reputable? Some more, some less, but I wouldn't count on anything they say.
As the saying goes, believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.