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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #210 on: March 09, 2015, 10:55:28 AM »
ftfy.

It's pretty funny the probably #1 reason for youths going otd isn't listed here, and it's not abuse as a kid ftr.
If this would be a serious discussion, it wouldn't be in JS. Besides, the topic isn't why people do go OTD, rather why they should.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #211 on: March 09, 2015, 10:59:18 AM »


Benching takes at least five minutes if you say every word. Since many people don't know it fully by heart, it requires obtaining a bencher (or smartphone app). Then, depending on how religious you are, it requires Mayim Achronim and donning a hat and jacket.
Probably already mentioned, but please don't lump these together.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #212 on: March 09, 2015, 11:02:39 AM »
what about kiddush levana after motza yom kippur maariv
and tisha bav (according to many)

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #213 on: March 09, 2015, 11:09:10 AM »
I heard it from someone I know who is a Talmud of R' Reuven and has a haskama on his sefer in halacha from him
So then not in any of R' Moshe's seforim? Just mepi hashmua?
that does give it less weight even though it has a great source.

If R' Moshe chose not to publicize a psak perhaps it was beacause he felt that one should be noheg like the more standardized halacha which is to wash even clean hands because of kabbalah reasons

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #214 on: March 09, 2015, 11:21:41 AM »
So then not in any of R' Moshe's seforim? Just mepi hashmua?
that does give it less weight even though it has a great source.

If R' Moshe chose not to publicize a psak perhaps it was beacause he felt that one should be noheg like the more standardized halacha which is to wash even clean hands because of kabbalah reasons
I didn't learn all his seforim also his only seforim on halacha IINM are the igros Moshe which he answered questions but if no one sent a letter to ask it won't be there
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #215 on: March 09, 2015, 11:22:20 AM »
Probably already mentioned, but please don't lump these together.

What do you mean by that? Which one is the less important one?

Birkas Hamazon is D'oraisa. It's equal to (or some would argue greater than) davening Shacharis. If you are makpid to wear a hat during davening, you should most certainly be makpid to wear it during Benching.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #216 on: March 09, 2015, 11:23:18 AM »


If R' Moshe chose not to publicize a psak perhaps it was beacause he felt that one should be noheg like the more standardized halacha which is to wash even clean hands because of kabbalah reasons
R' Moshe didn't hold one thing and tell everyone to do something else it makes no sense

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #217 on: March 09, 2015, 11:44:47 AM »
It snows or rains every Shabbos!

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #218 on: March 09, 2015, 12:20:50 PM »
What do you mean by that? Which one is the less important one?

Birkas Hamazon is D'oraisa. It's equal to (or some would argue greater than) davening Shacharis. If you are makpid to wear a hat during davening, you should most certainly be makpid to wear it during Benching.
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There's a specific inyan to wear a hat during davening because tfilah is is compared to standing in front of a king - which is not the case with bentcing. See M"B

It has nothing to do with being d'oraisa or not.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #219 on: March 09, 2015, 12:22:09 PM »

 i usually have fleishig for lunch and quite often for breakfast.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #220 on: March 09, 2015, 12:25:47 PM »


What do you mean by that? Which one is the less important one?

Birkas Hamazon is D'oraisa. It's equal to (or some would argue greater than) davening Shacharis. If you are makpid to wear a hat during davening, you should most certainly be makpid to wear it during Benching.

Mayim Achronim is Halacha. (No further comment)
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #221 on: March 09, 2015, 12:27:18 PM »

Mayim Achronim is Halacha. (No further comment)


According to R' Moshe Feinstein one need not wash mayim acharonim unless his hands are dirty because the other reason of a dangerous salt does not exist nowadays

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #222 on: March 09, 2015, 12:32:43 PM »
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #223 on: March 09, 2015, 12:36:27 PM »
R' Moshe didn't hold one thing and tell everyone to do something else it makes no sense
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R' moshe held certain things but felt they should not be publicized as psak. I know one instance of this 2nd hand.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #224 on: March 09, 2015, 12:44:07 PM »
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There's a specific inyan to wear a hat during davening because tfilah is is compared to standing in front of a king - which is not the case with bentcing. See M"B

It has nothing to do with being d'oraisa or not.

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