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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #255 on: March 10, 2015, 11:25:28 AM »
in regard to kli sheini on sugar on shabbos?
No, iirc it's a teshuvah on shutting off a stove top flame on Yom tov. But this is way ot. 😊

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #256 on: March 10, 2015, 11:28:53 AM »
No, iirc it's a teshuvah on shutting off a stove top flame ON A STOVE WITH A PILOT on Yom tov. But this is way ot. 😊
FTFY correctly?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #257 on: March 10, 2015, 11:32:39 AM »
FTFY correctly?
I dont think it matters, but its been a while since I last saw this teshuvah.
Btw this shoukd be moved to the shailos thread, Mods ?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #258 on: March 10, 2015, 01:14:42 PM »
Get a clue.

The quote below is taken from here: http://www.shemayisrael.com/parsha/halacha/Volume%206%20Issue%2012.pdf

The Stiepler ztl only wore a hat without a jacket.
I believe this is based on the halacha that bentching requires a "kesser"
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #259 on: March 10, 2015, 04:11:22 PM »
+1
I can't remember the last time i had milchig for supper and i usually have fleishig for lunch and quite often for breakfast. I prefer my coffee the way G-d intended, black and dark roasted.
I make a cholent for a thursday night learning program in a community that is mostly baalei teshuvah and it always seems crazy to me how many people would rather skip an awesome (if i may say so myself) cholent for the possibility of cereal and milk at 10PM!  :o :o
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #260 on: March 10, 2015, 04:42:19 PM »
FTFY correctly?
-1 it makes no difference the point is that you are not actually doing anything to the fire you are cutting off the supply of fuel
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #261 on: March 10, 2015, 05:31:41 PM »
-1 it makes no difference the point is that you are not actually doing anything to the fire you are cutting off the supply of fuel
The way I understood it, that point is only when you have a pilot that still has a flame after you close the burner.  So when you close the burner flame, you're not supplying extra fuel to the fire (of the pilot).  But if you have no pilot, when you shut off the fuel to the burner, the fire is extinguished - and that is a problem.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #262 on: March 10, 2015, 07:07:36 PM »
The way I understood it, that point is only when you have a pilot that still has a flame after you close the burner.  So when you close the burner flame, you're not supplying extra fuel to the fire (of the pilot).  But if you have no pilot, when you shut off the fuel to the burner, the fire is extinguished - and that is a problem.
Its based directly on a mishna. If u have a egg which is dripping oil on to a wick, on shabbos you can't take it off but on yom tov you can. Because normally you cant take fuel from a fire but on yom tov you can. So by turning off the gas your cutting off the fuel from below the fire, and therefore is like removing the egg. So if you have a burner which has an electronic starter you can unplug the oven and use the stove top all yt long by lightning the gas with a candle (that you have burning all yt) and turning it off whenever.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #263 on: March 10, 2015, 07:42:57 PM »
I believe this is based on the halacha that bentching requires a "kesser"
Weren't you there with me for the maaseh I mentioned? Is that what he said? I vaguely remember something about cos shel bracha being the mechayev too. Does that ring a bell?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #264 on: March 10, 2015, 07:51:41 PM »
Its based directly on a mishna. If u have a egg which is dripping oil on to a wick, on shabbos you can't take it off but on yom tov you can. Because normally you cant take fuel from a fire but on yom tov you can. So by turning off the gas your cutting off the fuel from below the fire, and therefore is like removing the egg. So if you have a burner which has an electronic starter you can unplug the oven and use the stove top all yt long by lightning the gas with a candle (that you have burning all yt) and turning it off whenever.
When you remove the egg, does the fire immediately go out? or is there some oil left to keep the wick lit at the time that you remove the egg?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #265 on: March 10, 2015, 09:00:03 PM »
Regarding the alleged netillasyadayimophobia, a non-jewish worker at a luncheonette recently asked me why the rabbis dont come out with a product like purell to make it less stressful :D

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #266 on: March 10, 2015, 09:06:15 PM »
Regarding the alleged netillasyadayimophobia, a non-jewish worker at a luncheonette recently asked me why the rabbis dont come out with a product like purell to make it less stressful :D
Reminds me of the joke with the eruv. When they were building one of the eruvin in NYC, they came to the mayor to get his help in securing the permits. They tried explaining to him exactly what it is and why it's necessary. He listened to the whole drasha with a puzzled expression, then asked, "I don't understand, why can't you just make it wireless?"

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #267 on: March 10, 2015, 09:08:44 PM »
When you remove the egg, does the fire immediately go out? or is there some oil left to keep the wick lit at the time that you remove the egg?
Obviously theres some oil left, but also by the gas range your cutting it off below the flame so theres still gas left (although its a tiny amount, and the fire goes out a millisecond later - its still there).
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #268 on: March 10, 2015, 10:55:15 PM »
Gosh - I'm with coralsnake, this discussion is making me go OTD.
1) FTR - RMF is discussing lowering the flame, and in a nutshell holds that if you can turn it lower you can turn it off. But he isn't matir that in the teshuva, and that's the off the record part. No difference if there is a pilot or not. IF there is an electric pilot, then you very possibly will trigger it in the process of shutting off the oven, so you have an electricity problem.
2) the shemayisroel link that was presented as proof that you have to wear a hat and jacket for bentshing clearly said that *some say* to do so. Precisely - the Magen Avraham says to put on a hat (no jacket). The Aruch Hashulchan says from the Zohar to put on a beged elyon, and adds ולא ראינו ולא שמענו מנהג זה . It's clearly not clear cut one way or another.
 Furthermore, does everyone wear a hat and jacket for davening?
3) Mayim Achronim - Suffice it to say that the SA quotes not washing as alegitimite opinion, and the MB differs only because of kabbalistic reasons. Yekkes don't wash. Many Litvaks don't wash. Most communities women don't wash.
4) I drink my coffee black and can't stand it with milk or sugar. I've been known to eat cholent for breakfast. I would happily wash for bread on 3 meals a day, maybe because of 2 + 3 above


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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #269 on: March 11, 2015, 12:56:34 AM »
Gosh - I'm with coralsnake, this discussion is making me go OTD.
1) FTR - RMF is discussing lowering the flame, and in a nutshell holds that if you can turn it lower you can turn it off. But he isn't matir that in the teshuva, and that's the off the record part. No difference if there is a pilot or not. IF there is an electric pilot, then you very possibly will trigger it in the process of shutting off the oven, so you have an electricity problem.
2) the shemayisroel link that was presented as proof that you have to wear a hat and jacket for bentshing clearly said that *some say* to do so. Precisely - the Magen Avraham says to put on a hat (no jacket). The Aruch Hashulchan says from the Zohar to put on a beged elyon, and adds ולא ראינו ולא שמענו מנהג זה . It's clearly not clear cut one way or another.
 Furthermore, does everyone wear a hat and jacket for davening?
3) Mayim Achronim - Suffice it to say that the SA quotes not washing as alegitimite opinion, and the MB differs only because of kabbalistic reasons. Yekkes don't wash. Many Litvaks don't wash. Most communities women don't wash.
4) I drink my coffee black and can't stand it with milk or sugar. I've been known to eat cholent for breakfast. I would happily wash for bread on 3 meals a day, maybe because of 2 + 3 above
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