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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #320 on: March 17, 2015, 11:53:33 PM »
Blood on the side of merit?
Or if hes right then thiers no blood. Theres just people doing it wrong.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #321 on: March 17, 2015, 11:55:24 PM »
Or if hes right then thiers no blood. Theres just people doing it wrong.
I really couldn't read your sentences.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #322 on: March 17, 2015, 11:59:08 PM »
Blood on the side of merit?
I thought he meant that the blood in the spoon is a merit like the korban pesach
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #323 on: March 18, 2015, 12:01:48 AM »
I really couldn't read your sentences.
I did have a few shots tonight. But I still think what i wrote makes sense
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #324 on: March 18, 2015, 12:02:36 AM »
I thought he meant that the blood in the spoon is a merit like the korban pesach
I must be missing some limud...
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #325 on: March 18, 2015, 12:03:20 AM »
Sherry casks is fair game

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #326 on: March 18, 2015, 01:55:06 AM »
I'd say with some confidence that if it weren't for the easy way out, being lazy, and taivos they'd still be frum.

Lots of people say they are going off because they have hashkafic issues but I found more often than not something else is the real drive behind those hashkafic issues.
Personally I feel that, on the most part, taivos are not a reason to go off because one can indulge and still be part of the fold. All one has to do is wear a different color kippa and "his" rabbi says it's permitted. IMO to go totally off there has to be real negative feelings.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #327 on: March 18, 2015, 09:02:46 AM »
I must be missing some limud...
What is a kaf?
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #328 on: March 18, 2015, 09:48:21 AM »
Personally I feel that, on the most part, taivos are not a reason to go off because one can indulge and still be part of the fold. All one has to do is wear a different color kippa and "his" rabbi says it's permitted. IMO to go totally off there has to be real negative feelings.
There are some things even the most liberal Rabbi's do not allow. There is also a reason majority of OTD's are single people...

If it was based on hashkafa that shouldn't change being married with a family or not...
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #329 on: March 18, 2015, 09:54:24 AM »
I Think you're both partially right.  No one goes off just because of hsshkafic issues. But if they had a positive experience with yidishkiet the tavos wouldn't lead them off either.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #330 on: March 18, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »
I Think you're both partially right.  No one goes off just because of hsshkafic issues. But if they had a positive experience with yidishkiet the tavos wouldn't lead them off either.
I think JJ is saying there's a certain class of Ta'avos that you would need an EXTREMELY strong Hashkafa to keep you in (and even then there are no guarantees...)

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #331 on: March 18, 2015, 09:58:00 AM »
I think JJ is saying there's a certain class of Ta'avos that you would need an EXTREMELY strong Hashkafa to keep you in (and even then there are no guarantees...)
Right, but his also saying that people go otd bevayse they want to fulfill that tava

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #332 on: March 18, 2015, 10:03:54 AM »
What is a kaf?

Different concave receptacles can be called "kaf."
A spoon, or the palm of your hand, or the tray of a scale.


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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #333 on: March 18, 2015, 10:06:44 AM »
Different concave receptacles can be called "kaf."
A spoon, or the palm of your hand, or the tray of a scale.


Hence it depends on the context. Judgment goes on a scale, blood goes in a spoon...

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #334 on: March 18, 2015, 10:07:09 AM »
I think JJ is saying there's a certain class of Ta'avos that you would need an EXTREMELY strong Hashkafa to keep you in (and even then there are no guarantees...)
I heard a vort (but since I only heard it and didn't see it in a reputable sefer I will NOT say it b'sheim "omro") that if you would be mesareis an epikoros he would become ois-epikoros.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #335 on: March 18, 2015, 10:57:22 AM »

No one goes off just because of hsshkafic issues.

How do you know?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #336 on: March 18, 2015, 10:58:34 AM »
How do you know?
I retract the "no one".

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #337 on: March 18, 2015, 06:21:46 PM »
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #339 on: March 18, 2015, 06:42:36 PM »
There are some things even the most liberal Rabbi's do not allow. There is also a reason majority of OTD's are single people...

If it was based on hashkafa that shouldn't change being married with a family or not...
Bad argument. It's far more difficult to go otd when married with children, regardless of the reason.
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