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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #735 on: July 20, 2016, 11:56:42 AM »
So I'm the outlier if I think she really is Jewish?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #736 on: July 20, 2016, 12:02:14 PM »
A. That would be disgusting to say that someone didn't do kapolas ol mitzvos just because someone else you know was converted by the same Rabbi and didn't do kapolas ol mitzvos.

B. To say that an orthodox Rabbi does conversions without KOM, is like saying an orthodox kashrus agency is giving a hechsher on may that wasn't shechted. There's no way someone can get away with that fit so many decades and I'd venture to say that's false.

Maybe he doesn't require KOM up to your standard. Are you knowledgeable of all the intricate halachos of giyur? What is considered KOM? I'm not, but I know some of them and that I don't know many of them.

PS. This is not at all addressed to you personally rather to all those giving opinions either way on someone else's personal life without even knowing the facts involved.
+1 (if you adjust all the typos)

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #737 on: July 20, 2016, 12:02:21 PM »
And it doesn't seem that it was sincere by judging her public conduct.
refer to my post above. many in her community are as religious as her, and that has halachic significance.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #738 on: July 20, 2016, 12:03:45 PM »

B. To say that an orthodox Rabbi does conversions without KOM, is like saying an orthodox kashrus agency is giving a hechsher on may that wasn't shechted. There's no way someone can get away with that fit so many decades and I'd venture to say that's false.


R Lookstein admits he doesn't think KOM is me'akev.
Do you know that his geiruses were just recently banned in Israel?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #739 on: July 20, 2016, 12:12:35 PM »
+1 (if you adjust all the typos)
Thanks. I usually read what I type before I post. This time I forgot. The thrills of auto type.

R Lookstein admits he doesn't think KOM is me'akev.
That's what I'm hearing now. And I'll admit and take back some of what I said.

Do you know that his geiruses were just recently banned in Israel?
I'm well aware. That's a whole different story. My personal opinion on the Israeli rabbinical courts and the way it's been politicized is getting lower and lower, but because I lack a lot of inside knowledge on the matter, I try not to voice my opinion to loud.


And about that
Are any news outlets reputable? Some more, some less, but I wouldn't count on anything they say.
As the saying goes, believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #740 on: July 20, 2016, 12:14:28 PM »
So I'm the outlier if I think she really is Jewish?
According to the articles I have been reading you are by far the only one if you think that.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #741 on: July 20, 2016, 12:21:19 PM »
According to the articles I have been reading you are by far the only one if you think that.
So I guess I'm strange.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #742 on: July 20, 2016, 12:22:24 PM »
So I guess I'm strange.
You have lots of company.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #743 on: July 20, 2016, 12:23:01 PM »
According to the articles I have been reading you are by far the only one if you think that.
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This is not a discussion for media outlets, op-eds or online forums.

This is a very complicated and delicate halachic issue. And none of the opinions you or I are reading are relevant as most of them are not familiar with A. The intricacies of the case and B. The intricacies of the halacha.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #744 on: July 20, 2016, 12:23:05 PM »
You have lots of company.
Good or bad company?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #745 on: July 20, 2016, 12:24:11 PM »
From what I know from the past. The Israeli Rabbinic court are 100% right not to accept any Geiyurus From Rabbi L. He does not keep to Halacha in Geiyurus the way all religious Rabbonim have in the past.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #746 on: July 20, 2016, 12:27:09 PM »
Good or bad company?
IMHO that would be good company.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #747 on: July 20, 2016, 12:27:37 PM »
It was tongue and cheek. What part don't you understand?

If you want to have the other discussion start another thread. I would love to hear how any religious law Trump's G-d's law.  :)
Tongue-in-cheek.
https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/tongue.html

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #748 on: July 20, 2016, 12:30:24 PM »
Tongue-in-cheek.
https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/tongue.html
I am batting .500  :P
First my OP was made tongue in cheek. As far as the rest all that matters is how she is viewed in G-d's eyes.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #749 on: July 20, 2016, 12:35:19 PM »
I am batting .500  :P
Lol, didn't notice that. Covering your bases, very smart. Besides, .500 will get you in the HOF. ;D

Only reason I commented was because I just heard someone say the same, and it surprised me.