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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #740 on: July 20, 2016, 12:14:28 PM »
So I'm the outlier if I think she really is Jewish?
According to the articles I have been reading you are by far the only one if you think that.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #741 on: July 20, 2016, 12:21:19 PM »
According to the articles I have been reading you are by far the only one if you think that.
So I guess I'm strange.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #742 on: July 20, 2016, 12:22:24 PM »
So I guess I'm strange.
You have lots of company.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #743 on: July 20, 2016, 12:23:01 PM »
According to the articles I have been reading you are by far the only one if you think that.
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This is not a discussion for media outlets, op-eds or online forums.

This is a very complicated and delicate halachic issue. And none of the opinions you or I are reading are relevant as most of them are not familiar with A. The intricacies of the case and B. The intricacies of the halacha.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #744 on: July 20, 2016, 12:23:05 PM »
You have lots of company.
Good or bad company?

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #745 on: July 20, 2016, 12:24:11 PM »
From what I know from the past. The Israeli Rabbinic court are 100% right not to accept any Geiyurus From Rabbi L. He does not keep to Halacha in Geiyurus the way all religious Rabbonim have in the past.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #746 on: July 20, 2016, 12:27:09 PM »
Good or bad company?
IMHO that would be good company.
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #747 on: July 20, 2016, 12:27:37 PM »
It was tongue and cheek. What part don't you understand?

If you want to have the other discussion start another thread. I would love to hear how any religious law Trump's G-d's law.  :)
Tongue-in-cheek.
https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/tongue.html

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #748 on: July 20, 2016, 12:30:24 PM »
Tongue-in-cheek.
https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/tongue.html
I am batting .500  :P
First my OP was made tongue in cheek. As far as the rest all that matters is how she is viewed in G-d's eyes.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #749 on: July 20, 2016, 12:35:19 PM »
I am batting .500  :P
Lol, didn't notice that. Covering your bases, very smart. Besides, .500 will get you in the HOF. ;D

Only reason I commented was because I just heard someone say the same, and it surprised me.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #750 on: July 20, 2016, 12:42:38 PM »
refer to my post above. many in her community are as religious as her, and that has halachic significance.

So, you don't stop being Jewish. You also don't become for that.

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #751 on: July 20, 2016, 01:24:10 PM »
Seems like she is very serious about Judiasm. And the parts she doesn't keep (tznius) her whole community doesn't keep.
Such as participating in a press conference on Shabbos to announce a VP?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #752 on: July 20, 2016, 02:46:00 PM »
R Lookstein has said, that he personally doesn't require קבלת עול מצוות, but Ivanka was mekabel.
The other 2 Rabbis on the Bais Din R Shacter and iirc some chassidish rabbi from Monsey deff require קבלת עול מצוות

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #753 on: July 20, 2016, 04:00:54 PM »
R Lookstein admits he doesn't think KOM is me'akev.
Do you know that his geiruses were just recently banned in Israel?
IINM it was for one specific case not for all his geirus. Also rav hershel Shelter was on the bes din for her geirus...

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #754 on: July 20, 2016, 04:37:54 PM »
Such as participating in a press conference on Shabbos to announce a VP?
is that assur al pi din lekol hadeios? maybe she asked her LOR. Playing devil's advocate, and as someone (you?) said earlier, it'sdisappointing, but IMHO not indicative of a lack of respect for shabbos necessarily

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #755 on: July 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM »
http://www.vogue.com/11739787/ivanka-trump-collection-the-apprentice-family/

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“Yeah, we observe the Sabbath,” says Ivanka, sipping her lychee martini. “From Friday to Saturday we don’t do anything but hang out with one another. We don’t make phone calls.”
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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #756 on: July 20, 2016, 05:12:38 PM »
Such as participating in a press conference on Shabbos to announce a VP?

Interesting because many Rabbonim hold it's 100% muttar...that's your proof that she's non-Jewish?
Visibly Jewish

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #757 on: July 20, 2016, 05:17:07 PM »
Interesting because many Rabbonim hold it's 100% muttar...that's your proof that she's non-Jewish?
Where did I ever say that she is not Jewish?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #758 on: July 20, 2016, 05:20:11 PM »
Where did I ever say that she is not Jewish?

I guess you didn't have a point because that's the running topic you're participating in
Visibly Jewish

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Re: Top Reasons To Go OTD
« Reply #759 on: July 20, 2016, 07:52:18 PM »
So, you don't stop being Jewish. You also don't become for that.
From what I understand, Rabbis Feinstein and Elyashiv disagree with you on this.

Btw, do you know which chelek in shulchan aruch Hilchos Giyur is?