Poll

Do you shake hands with the opposite gender at work?

Yes, and I work in an environment where shaking hands is "a must".
19 (17.1%)
No, and I work in an environment where shaking hands is "a must".
21 (18.9%)
Yes, and I don't work in an environment where shaking hands is "a must"
19 (17.1%)
No, and I don't work in an environment where shaking hands is "a must"
44 (39.6%)
I wear a ring, and I like to take it off and spin it on my desk.
8 (7.2%)

Total Members Voted: 111

Author Topic: Married men wear a ring to the office?  (Read 80143 times)

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #380 on: January 16, 2014, 07:32:06 PM »
FYI I was being restraint!
Not English

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Admittedly I have very strong feelings about certain things. If people wouldn't be so afraid of an intellectual debate about their beliefs without getting insulted we would get a no holds barred  thread started. ...

Would be fun but I don't think it would work.
Can you not have an intellectual debate while being respectful? Basic midos tovos were violated
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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #382 on: January 16, 2014, 08:47:02 PM »
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #383 on: January 16, 2014, 09:07:31 PM »
The word is a word but not used properly in that sentence
+1. Looks like google translate.
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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #384 on: January 16, 2014, 09:33:29 PM »
Ok its wrong
Couldn't bring myself to say that I was "being restrained."
No one restrains me

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #385 on: January 16, 2014, 09:52:00 PM »

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #386 on: January 16, 2014, 09:58:58 PM »
Ok its wrong
Couldn't bring myself to say that I was "being restrained."
No one restrains me
Just a wonderful display midos.

And you could have said I was speaking with restraint
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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #387 on: January 16, 2014, 09:59:48 PM »
Ok its wrong
Couldn't bring myself to say that I was "being restrained."
No one restrains me
The proper form then would be to say that you were showing restraint.

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #388 on: January 16, 2014, 10:02:55 PM »
The proper form then would be to say that you were showing restraint.
wish there was a word for "restraint" like there is "cautious" for "caution".

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #389 on: January 16, 2014, 10:03:01 PM »
BTW, living in the MO world there are plenty of negative things to say (as there probably are with every community) but that they are ashamed of their Judaism is really not one of them
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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #390 on: January 16, 2014, 10:03:45 PM »
Just a wonderful display midos.

And you could have said I was speaking with restraint
I'm not looking for a shiduch ya know

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #391 on: January 16, 2014, 10:05:46 PM »
I'm not looking for a shiduch a place in Gan Eden ya know
FTFY
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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #392 on: January 16, 2014, 10:14:19 PM »
BTW, living in the MO world there are plenty of negative things to say (as there probably are with every community) but that they are ashamed of their Judaism is really not one of them
since you won't let go of this issue. Imho the crux and essence of the MO hashkafa is lack of pride in yidishkeit (not Israel). This is why they are continuously modernizing yidishkeit to be up to par with the prevailing culture. Always looking over their shoulder to check what the goyim are doing, what will they say, what do they think..
Take feminism for example. I can rant for hours but people take my opinions to seriously ....
 

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #393 on: January 16, 2014, 10:18:16 PM »
churn baby, do you wear a ring out not?
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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #394 on: January 16, 2014, 10:20:20 PM »
since you won't let go of this issue. Imho the crux and essence of the MO hashkafa is lack of pride in yidishkeit (not Israel). This is why they are continuously modernizing yidishkeit to be up to par with the prevailing culture. Always looking over their shoulder to check what the goyim are doing, what will they say, what do they think..
Take feminism for example. I can rant for hours but people take my opinions to seriously ....

You just keep digging...

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #395 on: January 16, 2014, 10:35:44 PM »
churn baby, do you wear a ring out not?
Would you shake my hand with a ring? Without?

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #396 on: January 16, 2014, 10:42:15 PM »
Wow just finally finished going through this thread. I remember when I got married My MIL offered me a wedding ring but I declined. My father did not have one so I did not care for one. But my wife's father did have one. I also shake hands with the opposite gender. IMO I really don't see what the big deal is. It's pretty automatic by me when someone puts a hand in front of me.

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #397 on: January 16, 2014, 10:57:35 PM »
I shake hands with the opposite gender. IMO I really don't see what the big deal is. It's pretty automatic by me when someone puts a hand in front of me.

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #398 on: January 16, 2014, 11:24:14 PM »
Interesting read.
As shluchim,  my husband and I encounter this all the time.  This is not the business world but often the stakes are just as high - meeting a potential big donor.  Meeting politicians in high places,  meeting people who have enough friends that on their recommendation your attendance at Hebrew school can be doubled,  meeting members of the zoning board and so on.
What we try to do is explain concisely why we don't shake,  and making a point to smile,  be friendly and to kind of "lean in". meaning sometimes u  subconsciously lean back or take a step back -so I make sure not to.
My husband used to say something along the lines of my wife gets jealous but I told him that people don't get that's its a jokeand it makes me look pathetic.
If we are both together,  my husband will usually them the man,  "but I will shake your hand twice"
Yes it often times makes them uncomfortable,  they usually apologize and I feel bad but is also is uncomfortable when someone brings flowers and I leave it on the counter without putting it in water.
Or when someone brings food or wine for the meal and we don't serve it and the list goes on. ..
For us it's halacha and we try to make it as smooth as possible.

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Re: Married men wear a ring to the office?
« Reply #399 on: January 16, 2014, 11:28:31 PM »
And as for the MO discussion,  don't you know anyone who keeps less then you isn't religious and those who keep more are fanatics?