Bnei Torah

[rabbim]

I am a recent DDer and have very mixed feelings about participating in some of the deals being posted.

I was doing homework with my son last week and saw the following in תפארת ישראל - בועז מסכת בבא קמא פרק ד
I am honestly very interested in thoughts from longer term participants who consider themselves shomer Torah uMitzvos.

מיהו לגנוב מעכו"ם או להטעותו, לרמב"ם [פ"ז מגניבה] אסור מדאורייתא, ולרש"י [סנהדרין נ"ז א'] אסור מדרבנן, ואפילו טעות שטעה עכו"ם מעצמו, או כשנמצא אבידתו, אסור לעכבן. וכן כתב באר הגולה [ח"מ שמ"ח סק"ה], וז"ל ואני כותב זה לדורות, שראיתי רבים העשירו א"ע מטעות עכו"ם, ולא הצלחו וירדו מנכסיהם ולא הניחו אחריהם ברכה, ורבים אשר קדשו ה' והחזירו טעות עכו"ם בדבר חשוב, גדלו והצליחו והעשירו, והניחו יתרם לעולליהם, וכ"כ בספר חסידים [תתרע"ד] ואם זה בעכו"ם, שהיה ממונינו וחיינו בעיניהם הפקר כמ"ש חז"ל, בניך עולפו וגו' כתוא מכמר [ב"ק קי"ז א'], ק"ו מעתה שכמה מהחיוב עלינו לאלו אחינו מהאומות המכירין ה' אחד ומכבדין תורתו, ומאמינים בה שהיא אלהים, וקורין אותה [הייליגע שריפט], ומשמרין כפי המחוייב עליהן מדין תורתינו דהיינו הז' מצות, וגם אינן מניחין לעקם לנו אפילו שערה קטנה אפילו מגדול שבגדולים שלהן, ופשתה כהה שבנו לא יכבוה, ולא זו בלבד אלא שעושין, ג"כ ג"ח רבות עם עניי' שלנו, דכמה וכמה מתפרנסים רק מנדבת ידם, וא"כ איך נוכל להיות כפויי טובה ח"ו, ולא נאמר כיוסף שאמר ואיך אעשה הרעה הגדולה וחטאתי לאלהים]:

[Ergel]

I think you have to evaluate each deal on its own and decide/ask a posek

[sky121]

I think you have to evaluate each deal on its own and decide/ask a posek

+1 Sounds like the right idea to me.

[philbenjoe]

+1

Also not every deal is a mistake on their part. Figuring out the system to get the most out of your buck is not taking advantage of a mistake.

[avremie]

 corporations are not people (al pi most shitos

[philbenjoe]

Who said that? Besides 'people' lose money in corporations because of mistakes etc.

[Vosizderneias]

Why do ppl have to throw in their crap to this objective forum. U have sour feelings about this place- get lost. And i hope this will be the last dude throwing in religion on this freakin deals site. For crying out loud!!!

[avremie]

So how much money do shareholders lose because of these glitches?

[Ergel]

corporations are not people (al pi most shitos

And therefore? It's not mutar to steal from a corporation. It may be mutar to lend to a corporation with ribbis, but I'm not sure what relevance that has hear

[Centro]

Why do ppl have to throw in their crap to this objective forum. U have sour feelings about this place- get lost. And i hope this will be the last dude throwing in religion on this freakin deals site. For crying out loud!!!

I'm not a poisik nor am I a Talmud chuchem therefore I'm not going to raise my opinion whether the op is right or not,
BUT your post sounds like you're I don't know what,
RELIGION?!, SOUR FEELINGS?!, all he did was discuss whether these kind of things are permitted by our torah which we are to follow, no?

Again, I didn't say he's right (cause I have no idea) but keep it cooool....

[Twin]

Why do ppl have to throw in their crap to this objective forum. U have sour feelings about this place- get lost. And i hope this will be the last dude throwing in religion on this freakin deals site. For crying out loud!!!

Crap? Most of us are god fearing ppl and we don't want to do anything that is against our religion, I'm sorry that you have a problem with ppl that are trying to do the right thing.
The op never said you are doing something wrong he simple asked your opinion no reason to get so upset.

That being said I think it's looser'sh to create a second acc just to post this, stand behind what you say!!

[philbenjoe]

Move this thread to the just shmooze board cause that's where this really belongs....

[popcorn1508]

Crap? Most of us are god fearing ppl and we don't want to do anything that is against our religion, I'm sorry that you have a problem with ppl that are trying to do the right thing.
The op never said you are doing something wrong he simple asked your opinion no reason to get so upset.

That being said I think it's looser'sh to create a second acc just to post this, stand behind what you say!!

who opened a second account

[Super Speed]

who opened a second account

The OP.

[Twin]

Move this thread to the just shmooze board cause that's where this really belongs....

Or ethics thread

[popcorn1508]

The OP.

and whats his first account

[Twin]

and whats his first account

I'm not going to expose him.

[Freddie]

I'm not going to expose him.

That's right, you should only ever expose yourself.

[Myccrabbi]

That's right, you should only ever expose yourself.

?

[philbenjoe]

The OP.

how do you know?