@Yehuda's Israel/Eurotrip Honeymoon

[ilherman]

I hope you don't plan on spending 75K UA miles to fly OW economy to Isreal.

Also I didn't say its not going to happen! In fact Dan posted a while ago that there was an entire week in Feb wwith direct business availability, though this doesn't usually happen .... Well I flew last year in the summer direct by booking the last minute in July.

[@Yehuda]

I hope you don't plan on spending 75K UA miles to fly OW economy to Isreal.

Also I didn't say its not going to happen! In fact Dan posted a while ago that there was an entire week in Feb wwith direct business availability, though this doesn't usually happen .... Well I flew last year in the summer direct by booking the last minute in July.

No, I don't want to spend that. Sorry for the misquote - it's unlikely. Especially since I need to plan a large trip and it would be too risky to wait last minute for a flight to pop up.

Suggestion for where to go on the first NYC-EX flight?

[Ergel]

Depart:
4:11 p.m.
Sun., Jun. 1, 2014
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Arrive:
8:51 p.m.
Sun., Jun. 1, 2014
St. John's, NL Canada (YYT)
Flight Time:
3 hr 10 mn   
Flight: UA1621
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Meal: Food and Beverages for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
See On-Time Performance
View Seats
Change Planes. Connect time in St. John's, NL Canada (YYT) is 1 hour 14 minutes.
Depart:
10:05 p.m.
Sun., Jun. 1, 2014
St. John's, NL Canada (YYT)
Arrive:
6:35 a.m. +1 Day
Mon., Jun. 2, 2014
London, England (LHR - Heathrow)
Flight Time:
5 hr 0 mn

Travel Time:
9 hr 24 mn   
Flight: AC822
Operated by Air Canada.
Aircraft: Airbus A319
Meal: None
See On-Time Performance


In business to LHR

[@Yehuda]

Depart:
4:11 p.m.
Sun., Jun. 1, 2014
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Arrive:
8:51 p.m.
Sun., Jun. 1, 2014
St. John's, NL Canada (YYT)
Flight Time:
3 hr 10 mn   
Flight: UA1621
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Meal: Food and Beverages for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
See On-Time Performance
View Seats
Change Planes. Connect time in St. John's, NL Canada (YYT) is 1 hour 14 minutes.
Depart:
10:05 p.m.
Sun., Jun. 1, 2014
St. John's, NL Canada (YYT)
Arrive:
6:35 a.m. +1 Day
Mon., Jun. 2, 2014
London, England (LHR - Heathrow)
Flight Time:
5 hr 0 mn

Travel Time:
9 hr 24 mn   
Flight: AC822
Operated by Air Canada.
Aircraft: Airbus A319
Meal: None
See On-Time Performance


In business to LHR

Cool, thanks for looking it up! What kind/how many miles are we talking about?

[ushdadude]

if you can actually stop in YYT for a few hours i would HIGHLY RECOMMEND it.
Gros Morne National Park is gorgeous!!!!

[ushdadude]

if you can actually stop in YYT for a few hours i would HIGHLY RECOMMEND it.
Gros Morne National Park is gorgeous!!!!

Actually, it's a little far from the airport but there are other places worth seeing!

[@Yehuda]

Actually, it's a little far from the airport but there are other places worth seeing!

Let's save Canada for another trip

[ushdadude]

Let's save Canada for another trip

Fair enough. I did a road trip through the entire NE Canada (New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland. When you get around to it, PM me. 

[@Yehuda]

Fair enough. I did a road trip through the entire NE Canada (New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland. When you get around to it, PM me. 

Haha will do, that's awesome!

Can anyone confirm this - I think I remember Dan once posting that the 50K from Lufthansa cc is enough for a business ticket NYC-Europe. Is that true? Am I making that up?

[@Yehuda]

Okay, we're making progress!

I found a business saver (UA 50K) LGA-BOS-FRA which could work ( + the first class FRA terminal). US Airways to BOS and Lufthansa to FRA.

Then I found on ITA that Lufthansa flies direct from FRA to TLV at a time that would work, but how do I find it on united.com to see how many miles it will be?

[Ergel]

You don't get first class terminal access if you're flying in business

[ilherman]

Okay, we're making progress!

I found a business saver (UA 50K) LGA-BOS-FRA which could work ( + the first class FRA terminal). US Airways to BOS and Lufthansa to FRA.

Then I found on ITA that Lufthansa flies direct from FRA to TLV at a time that would work, but how do I find it on united.com to see how many miles it will be?

27,500 in business class. 17,500 in economy.

For what dates are you looking?

[@Yehuda]

You don't get first class terminal access if you're flying in business

Ooo ok, oh well.

27,500 in business class. 17,500 in economy.

For what dates are you looking?

It leaves LGA on 6/10 and gets to FRA on 6/11 Thanks for the mileage info. I'd have to move UR and MR/SPG over to UA to make it happen.

[ilherman]

When do you wonna leave FRA?

[ilherman]

Why don't you book FRA as a stop over and fly everything for 60K? (either book a RT for 120K, or HUCA until a rep is willing to get you a free stop over on a OW)

[Devorah]

MR doesn't transfer to UA and I believe not worth transferring SPG to UA as its 2:1

[@Yehuda]

MR doesn't transfer to UA and I believe not worth transferring SPG to UA as its 2:1

Thanks for the info

Why don't you book FRA as a stop over and fly everything for 60K? (either book a RT for 120K, or HUCA until a rep is willing to get you a free stop over on a OW)

I want to leave right away. FRA isn't on our to-do list, so I just want it as a stopover to TLV. There are no business savers from NYC-FRA-TLV so I need to book it in pieces. I only want OW bc we'll be going back to NY from some other country, not Israel. I also can't just book a OW NYC-TLV and then ask for a stopover, bc there are no business savers NYC-TLV...
That's why I was looking at just getting to FRA business (which exists if I stop in BOS) and then trying to get a diff flight from FRA-TLV. In addition to having trouble finding a UA flight FRA-TLV, I find that only UA (like SWA) barely charges fees, everything else (AA, BA, Lufthansa) seems to add hundreds of $ as fees.

[ilherman]

Thanks for the info

I want to leave right away. FRA isn't on our to-do list, so I just want it as a stopover to TLV. There are no business savers from NYC-FRA-TLV so I need to book it in pieces. I only want OW bc we'll be going back to NY from some other country, not Israel. I also can't just book a OW NYC-TLV and then ask for a stopover, bc there are no business savers NYC-TLV...
That's why I was looking at just getting to FRA business (which exists if I stop in BOS) and then trying to get a diff flight from FRA-TLV. In addition to having trouble finding a UA flight FRA-TLV, I find that only UA (like SWA) barely charges fees, everything else (AA, BA, Lufthansa) seems to add hundreds of $ as fees.

There is lots of avail FRA - TLV with stopovers.

[ilherman]

Also did you check Brussels or LOT if they have avail, you have to check them on AC.

[@Yehuda]

Also did you check Brussels or LOT if they have avail, you have to check them on AC.

Ooo didn't realize that's what you meant, yes I see that availability. That won't be just 60K (it'll be 50+17.5) and I won't have enough miles... Also, isn't that gna be annoying though? NYC-BOS-FRA-EX-TLV? Is that just what I'm going to have to do to go business?

Can you help with AC search? I can't find a way to view award avail. and it also only shows flights going FRA-YYZ-TLV lol