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Amazon Prime might cost more
« on: January 30, 2014, 10:47:34 PM »
Will amazon prime raise the price from its current $79 ??

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/30/amazon-prime-price-increase_n_4698124.html


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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 10:16:44 AM »
Yup, just read this. This was inevitable and only a matter of time.

Amazon had a bad quarter, and their stock took a hit. Analysts are basically saying that Amazon's profits are so razor thin it's almost like a gimmick. They will need to start turning a real profit at some point or another.

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 11:02:04 AM »
They can pull off 99.
119 seems like a real stretch though.
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 11:14:08 AM »
Their biggest problem in my opinion is that most people like me mostly buy small things up to $100 regularly and many times the entire profit margin goes to pay for the shipping and I only paid like $10 for Prime. The things where the profit margin is larger and to a bigger extent, the third party sellers is where they make money.
Still only losing 200 million is nothing for such a company. Another half a cent on every item and it's covered.
They will eventually turn big profits. There are enough places where they will find to squeeze out more money.
I'm not saying that the stock isn't overpriced. They aren't yet at their full potential for expansions besides for the new things that they're doing like groceries.
By the way, does local express delivery still exist?

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 11:26:18 AM »
is there any grandfathering? should I grab Prime now before the hike?

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 11:28:43 AM »
They can pull off 99.
119 seems like a real stretch though.
Agreed. They should probably cut down on the sharing of prime first, maybe that would allow them not to raise prices.

Prime customers are so much more engaged. It would be a terrible move to alienate them
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 01:29:50 PM »
Their biggest problem in my opinion is that most people like me mostly buy small things up to $100 regularly and many times the entire profit margin goes to pay for the shipping and I only paid like $10 for Prime. The things where the profit margin is larger and to a bigger extent, the third party sellers is where they make money.
Still only losing 200 million is nothing for such a company. Another half a cent on every item and it's covered.
They will eventually turn big profits. There are enough places where they will find to squeeze out more money.
I'm not saying that the stock isn't overpriced. They aren't yet at their full potential for expansions besides for the new things that they're doing like groceries.
By the way, does local express delivery still exist?

You are being generously optimistic. We're not talking about a web startup here. Amazon and Amazon Prime has been aroud for years and should have long matured and stabilized by now. Amazon's main appeal is their prices and cheap, fast shipping which (we now know) are unrealistically low.

In fact, Bezos admitted that the AWS department is the bulk of their profit, which speaks volumes about the sad state of profits in their retail department.

Basically, if I opened a pizza shop and sold slices for 25 cents, I would be turning the biggest revenue in town, but taking a huge loss. My point is, investors may bail if Amazon can't find a way to become seriously profitable.

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 02:05:17 PM »
Third party sellers are very profitable. They take a nice chunk.

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 02:09:05 PM »
The expansions will cause the shipping costs to go down because of the distances.
Once they have a warehouse in every corner, they can raise prices a bit, get items for less because of bigger bulk buying because of the increase in sales and the biggest part, nobody will be able to compete even if they are a little more expensive.

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 06:42:35 PM »
is there any grandfathering? should I grab Prime now before the hike?

Can I renew now if my membership is up in September?
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 08:16:52 PM »
Can I renew now if my membership is up in September?
You'll find it first if prices go up, it went happen overnight.

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2014, 09:09:23 PM »
Having to pay second day shipping is a nice cut in their profit. 90% or more of my FBA orders are second day, so even Amazon is taking off their 7/15 percent they still have to pay a hefty price for second day shipping, and I believe that a lot of these prime members are shared.

So lets say I sell something for 39.99 the commission fee is just about $3 something and my FBA fee is 2.99. So they pay for second day I would guess at least $6, so where is their profit? (not that i'm worried that we will soon be collecting money for Bezos.... Just bringing out a fact)
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2014, 09:38:56 PM »
No way they pay $6 to ship a light item
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2014, 09:39:22 PM »
Having to pay second day shipping is a nice cut in their profit. 90% or more of my FBA orders are second day, so even Amazon is taking off their 7/15 percent they still have to pay a hefty price for second day shipping, and I believe that a lot of these prime members are shared.

So lets say I sell something for 39.99 the commission fee is just about $3 something and my FBA fee is 2.99. So they pay for second day I would guess at least $6, so where is their profit? (not that i'm worried that we will soon be collecting money for Bezos.... Just bringing out a fact)
they're shipping charges are nowhere near the average guys. Trust me they get great deals from ups/usps

Especially with all the new fulfillment centers they're opening.they can now ship ground and still be within 2 days

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2014, 09:43:15 PM »
Having to pay second day shipping is a nice cut in their profit. 90% or more of my FBA orders are second day, so even Amazon is taking off their 7/15 percent they still have to pay a hefty price for second day shipping, and I believe that a lot of these prime members are shared.

So lets say I sell something for 39.99 the commission fee is just about $3 something and my FBA fee is 2.99. So they pay for second day I would guess at least $6, so where is their profit? (not that i'm worried that we will soon be collecting money for Bezos.... Just bringing out a fact)

You are not wrong. I don't know what deal they have cut out with UPS, but I'm certain UPS is not working for free. $6 for second day shipping would be a very good deal, even if they are shipping hundreds of thousands of boxes per week.

I'm not so sure about the shared prime estimate, though. Sharing prime is not an advertised feature, and the shared account does not get the discounts and video streaming.


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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2014, 09:45:23 PM »
No way they pay $6 to ship a light item

$6 average makes sense. They may not be paying $6 for shipping a book, but when they ship a box of pampers or detergent they very likely are.


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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2014, 09:47:10 PM »
they're shipping charges are nowhere near the average guys. Trust me they get great deals from ups/usps

Especially with all the new fulfillment centers they're opening.they can now ship ground and still be within 2 days
Yes, they have great reats with UPS. You would pay $20 for second day and they pay (at least) $6 how does that sound?
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2014, 02:42:02 PM »
He he here it's 29€ (40$) for prime.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/prime

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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2014, 03:29:50 PM »
He he here it's 29€ (40$) for prime.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/prime

With free next day delivery. Wow. Do they actually have good prices/selection of items?
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Re: Amazon Prime might cost more
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2014, 03:40:18 PM »
With free next day delivery. Wow. Do they actually have good prices/selection of items?
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