Do you hit your kids?

[Achas Veachas]

Iam not one who just hits his kids all the time for no reason. If I see my child run in to the street or do something dangerous or life threatening I will give him/her a slap to remind them not to do it again. I think that giving a slap will leave more of an impression then just telling a 2-3 year old not to do it.

And if you saw your wife do something dangerous?

[Lou Bob]

And if you saw your wife do something dangerous?

standby 

[yehuda S]

Iam not one who just hits his kids all the time for no reason. If I see my child run in to the street or do something dangerous or life threatening I will give him/her a slap to remind them not to do it again. I think that giving a slap will leave more of an impression then just telling a 2-3 year old not to do it.

And what an impression! Just not the one you want.

[judahk88]

Ok.

But you're still are trying to influence what they do. Why not use the best methods?

Because an adult will listen to reason with words a child won't. If you tell an adult "no you can not have that candy" they will understand, but if you tell a child that they will start crying and screaming (not all kids)

[yehuda S]

Think about how incredibly unacceptable it is for adults to hit other adults in society, even when taunted or angered. It is almost universally considered terrible behavior.

Doing it to a little kid is so much worse.

[judahk88]

And what an impression! Just not the one you want.

Do you think that a child who got smacked as a kid for going into the street or doing something dangerous is scarred?
I know I was hit in those instances as a child and I think I turned out ok.

[henche]

Because an adult will listen to reason with words a child won't. If you tell an adult "no you can not have that candy" they will understand, but if you tell a child that they will start crying and screaming (not all kids)

What if your spouse refuses to listen to reason on something?

[Ches]

חושך שבטו שונא את בנו
was said by חכם מכל האדם

[henche]

Do you think that a child who got smacked as a kid for going into the street or doing something dangerous is scarred?
I know I was hit in those instances as a child and I think I turned out ok.

What do you mean you turned out ok? You're arguing here to beat little kids!

[judahk88]

Think about how incredibly unacceptable it is for adults to hit other adults in society, even when taunted or angered. It is almost universally considered terrible behavior.

Doing it to a little kid is so much worse.

You are correct, but you cannot compare the 2.

[judahk88]

What do you mean you turned out ok? You're arguing here to beat little kids!

woah!! I didn't say "beat". Big difference between beat and hit when they do somethong dangerous!

[Achas Veachas]

You are correct, but you cannot compare the 2.

That's right, adults will fight back...

[yehuda S]

What do you mean you turned out ok? You're arguing here to beat little kids!

LOL!!

[Ches]

and not שונא את אשתו
cause hitting is only made for chinuch not for persuasiveness.

[judahk88]

That's right, adults will fight back...

Lol some adults

[elit]

discipline does not equal hitting.

never said it did

[yehuda S]

חושך שבטו שונא את בנו
was said by חכם מכל האדם

People are so frum when it comes to this.

Why don't we start with the Deoraisas first. Or how about Lashon Hara?

[churnbabychurn]

Goodness, the argument for corporal punishment of children is to instill in them the concept of consequences to their actions. This is a very foreign idea to many adults these days.
There is a debate as to whether people today bichlal act after weighing the reward and consequences, or if we are solely a reward based society.
Hitting an adult has no shichus to the discussion.   

[Ches]

People are so frum when it comes to this.

Why don't we start with the Deoraisas first. Or how about Lashon Hara?

It's not a mitzvah he said it as a fact.

[mod]

a spouse is Diff as they have the ability to think, as well as life experience.
A kid has neither (or actually, a very limited amount of both)

That's why hitting a spouse makes more sense. An adult understands. The child just thinks you hate them.