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Do you hit your children, and why/why not?

Heck yeah!
11 (14.1%)
Never!
15 (19.2%)
I try not to but when they really get crazy...
9 (11.5%)
Only for Chinuch or life threatening situations.
33 (42.3%)
I don't but my spouse does.
1 (1.3%)
You mean people still do this? *shocked*
9 (11.5%)

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2014, 04:42:41 PM »

discipline does not equal hitting.
never said it did

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2014, 04:42:53 PM »

חושך שבטו שונא את בנו
was said by חכם מכל האדם
People are so frum when it comes to this.

Why don't we start with the Deoraisas first. Or how about Lashon Hara?
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2014, 04:45:21 PM »
Goodness, the argument for corporal punishment of children is to instill in them the concept of consequences to their actions. This is a very foreign idea to many adults these days.
There is a debate as to whether people today bichlal act after weighing the reward and consequences, or if we are solely a reward based society.
Hitting an adult has no shichus to the discussion.   

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #138 on: February 19, 2014, 04:45:36 PM »
People are so frum when it comes to this.

Why don't we start with the Deoraisas first. Or how about Lashon Hara?
It's not a mitzvah he said it as a fact.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #139 on: February 19, 2014, 04:47:20 PM »
a spouse is Diff as they have the ability to think, as well as life experience.
A kid has neither (or actually, a very limited amount of both)
That's why hitting a spouse makes more sense. An adult understands. The child just thinks you hate them.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #140 on: February 19, 2014, 04:49:09 PM »
, and anyway wouldn't work very well.
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Works excellent for me.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2014, 04:50:00 PM »
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Works excellent for me.

I'm sorry to hear that. You should really stop being such a pushover and stand up to her.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #142 on: February 19, 2014, 04:51:09 PM »

That's why hitting a spouse makes more sense. An adult understands. The child just thinks you hate them.
An adult understands???

Find me an adult whom you can hit and will "understand"?

I think they will understand that you have issues and they need to file for divorce.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #143 on: February 19, 2014, 04:52:24 PM »
That's why hitting a spouse makes more sense. An adult understands. The child just thinks you hate them.
If that adult understands, then he/she won't be running into the street in the first place.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #144 on: February 19, 2014, 04:52:42 PM »
An adult understands???

Find me an adult whom you can hit and will "understand"?

I think they will understand that you have issues and they need to file for divorce.
I don't think you undertsand "hitting". I am not talking about punching  kid across the face I am talking about giving them a small smack on their hand and telling them not to do it again.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #145 on: February 19, 2014, 04:54:21 PM »
I don't think you undertsand "hitting". I am not talking about punching  kid across the face I am talking about giving them a small smack on their hand and telling them not to do it again.

Ok, what is the purpose of that?
Does it hurt, or is this some sort of symbolism.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2014, 04:55:29 PM »
An adult understands???

Find me an adult whom you can hit and will "understand"?

I think they will understand that you have issues and they need to file for divorce.

not what I meant. An adult can understand. I didn't say accept it. It makes more sense to hit a spouse than a child.
My point is more- the Rambam references hitting a wife...
Don't think either is a good idea to say the least, but child is much worse.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2014, 04:56:11 PM »
If that adult understands, then he/she won't be running into the street in the first place.
You're assuming that people are not hitting for obedience

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #148 on: February 19, 2014, 04:56:58 PM »
I don't think you undertsand "hitting". I am not talking about punching  kid across the face I am talking about giving them a small smack on their hand and telling them not to do it again.
Is that supposed to hurt or just make a point?

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #149 on: February 19, 2014, 04:57:31 PM »
Ok, what is the purpose of that?
Does it hurt, or is this some sort of symbolism.
I don't know what hurts or not. I obviously don't want to leave marks on my child, but I do want them to remember not to do it again and I think that giving them a small smack on their hand will remind them more then just telling them.
Don't get me wrong I am not into hitting a kid for any reason and because one is short tempered, but I do think it certain cisrcumstances you have to. I have one kid and I can tell you that since she is born I smacked her once or twice and one if thise times was because she ran into the street.