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Do you hit your children, and why/why not?

Heck yeah!
11 (14.1%)
Never!
15 (19.2%)
I try not to but when they really get crazy...
9 (11.5%)
Only for Chinuch or life threatening situations.
33 (42.3%)
I don't but my spouse does.
1 (1.3%)
You mean people still do this? *shocked*
9 (11.5%)

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #210 on: February 19, 2014, 10:06:51 PM »
I've seen People potch their kids out of frustration and I've seen people potch out of frustration/anger/dislike  and it's different.

Dislike? That's a completely different issue.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #211 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:43 PM »
Dislike? That's a completely different issue.

I agree. It's the same thing with yelling at your kid etc. When it's combined with dislike it's a big problem.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #212 on: February 19, 2014, 10:22:39 PM »
When we were growing up, not that long ago, the rebbeim in school used to slap daily. Now kids are to emotionally weak to handle it.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #213 on: February 19, 2014, 10:24:44 PM »
When we were growing up, not that long ago, the rebbeim in school used to slap daily. Now kids are to emotionally weak to handle it.

The Rebbeim also used to belt kids and basically beat them up.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #214 on: February 19, 2014, 10:29:39 PM »
The Rebbeim also used to belt kids and basically beat them up.
please tell me you're not serious.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #215 on: February 19, 2014, 10:29:49 PM »

When we were growing up, not that long ago, the rebbeim in school used to slap daily. Now kids are to emotionally weak to handle it.

My pre-1a rebbe would even hang his different length sticks on the wall for ease of access. His wooden ruler, however, was kept in his desk.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #216 on: February 19, 2014, 10:32:51 PM »
please tell me you're not serious.

Why wouldn't I be serious? Most the stories I know happened in Israel. I have plenty of relatives with crazy stories. Most of these guys are in their 30's now.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #217 on: February 19, 2014, 10:49:58 PM »
Why wouldn't I be serious? Most the stories I know happened in Israel. I have plenty of relatives with crazy stories. Most of these guys are in their 30's now.
And we grew up in the states and all my brothers had stories of that happening to them, so it wasn't just Israel.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #218 on: February 19, 2014, 11:04:16 PM »
The Rebbeim also used to belt kids and basically beat them up.
I had one rebbe who used to really let lose.
The rest were standard "come here, take of your glasses" . those were the days :)

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #219 on: February 19, 2014, 11:49:45 PM »
When we were growing up, not that long ago, the rebbeim in school used to slap daily. Now kids are to emotionally weak to handle it.

Maybe the rebbeim then were too emotionally weak to not hit. That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust, and thank goodness the effect has started to wear off.

I used to listen to the horror stories from somewhat older relatives - and they were sickening. I myself wasn't hit as often by rebbeim but the few times were more than enough.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #220 on: February 20, 2014, 12:06:00 AM »
Maybe the rebbeim then were too emotionally weak to not hit. That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust, and thank goodness the effect has started to wear off.
Nothing to do with the Holocaust. The yerushalmi Rebbeim would beat too. An old yerushalmi told me that the reason why so many yerushalmi kids joined all the frei organazations and went otd, was because they were beaten to the bone.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #221 on: February 20, 2014, 12:17:21 AM »
That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust,
Fascinating insight. Where did you hear that idea? Or is it your own analysis?

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #222 on: February 20, 2014, 12:24:31 AM »

Fascinating insight. Where did you hear that idea? Or is it your own analysis?
I heard from a professional (therapist). He said that well I can't remember exactly what he said but the gist was that these rebbeim were generally the children of holocaust survivors who themselves had many, many issues. So really Hitler affected up to the third generation of living people and possibly more.

And that is besides the research on the weakened physical bodies of holocaust survivor descendants.
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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #223 on: February 20, 2014, 12:30:50 AM »

When we were growing up, not that long ago, the rebbeim in school used to slap daily. Now kids are to emotionally weak to handle it.
Maybe the rebbeim then were too emotionally weak to not hit. That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust, and thank goodness the effect has started to wear off.

I used to listen to the horror stories from somewhat older relatives - and they were sickening. I myself wasn't hit as often by rebbeim but the few times were more than enough.
or perhaps the rebbiem nowadays are too emotionally weak to show true love, care and concern for their talmidiem so that if they would hit it wouldn't have such an adverse effect on the Talmud.

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Re: Do you hit your kids?
« Reply #224 on: February 20, 2014, 12:39:06 AM »
or perhaps the rebbiem nowadays are too emotionally weak to show true love, care and concern for their talmidiem so that if they would hit it wouldn't have such an adverse effect on the Talmud.
Dude, you make it sound like hitting is a goal unto itself that we should strive for! That's messed up.