Do you hit your kids?

[Baruch]

Maybe the rebbeim then were too emotionally weak to not hit. That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust, and thank goodness the effect has started to wear off.

Nothing to do with the Holocaust. The yerushalmi Rebbeim would beat too. An old yerushalmi told me that the reason why so many yerushalmi kids joined all the frei organazations and went otd, was because they were beaten to the bone.

[george]

That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust,

Fascinating insight. Where did you hear that idea? Or is it your own analysis?

[yehuda S]

Fascinating insight. Where did you hear that idea? Or is it your own analysis?

I heard from a professional (therapist). He said that well I can't remember exactly what he said but the gist was that these rebbeim were generally the children of holocaust survivors who themselves had many, many issues. So really Hitler affected up to the third generation of living people and possibly more.

And that is besides the research on the weakened physical bodies of holocaust survivor descendants.

[Sport]

When we were growing up, not that long ago, the rebbeim in school used to slap daily. Now kids are to emotionally weak to handle it.

Maybe the rebbeim then were too emotionally weak to not hit. That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust, and thank goodness the effect has started to wear off.

I used to listen to the horror stories from somewhat older relatives - and they were sickening. I myself wasn't hit as often by rebbeim but the few times were more than enough.

or perhaps the rebbiem nowadays are too emotionally weak to show true love, care and concern for their talmidiem so that if they would hit it wouldn't have such an adverse effect on the Talmud.

[george]

or perhaps the rebbiem nowadays are too emotionally weak to show true love, care and concern for their talmidiem so that if they would hit it wouldn't have such an adverse effect on the Talmud.

Dude, you make it sound like hitting is a goal unto itself that we should strive for! That's messed up.

[Sport]

Dude, you make it sound like hitting is a goal unto itself that we should strive for! That's messed up.

eh not sure where you got that from.

[CountValentine]

please tell me you're not serious.

Religious leaders of all faiths have been abusing kids for decades. You are not aware of this?

[sky121]

Religious leaders of all faiths have been abusing kids for decades. You are not aware of this?

Side note but when he says rabbeim he is referring to teachers. Not to say they aren't religious leaders...

[churnbabychurn]

Maybe the rebbeim then were too emotionally weak to not hit. That surge of violence is the result of Hitler and the holocaust, and thank goodness the effect has started to wear off.

I used to listen to the horror stories from somewhat older relatives - and they were sickening. I myself wasn't hit as often by rebbeim but the few times were more than enough.

Your making it sound horrible. IME a loving rebbe giving the appropriate slap, was a normal healthy part of school. Just like being sent to the principles office. Or writing out 500 times: I won't talk in class (-is that to much today also?).

I don't know your story, but from the kids I grew up with, I don't think that we were negatively affected at all. 

[CountValentine]

Side note but when he says rabbeim he is referring to teachers. Not to say they aren't religious leaders...

Side note to your side note. Teachers in a religious school are considered religious leaders where I went to school. 

[churnbabychurn]

15 years ago it was fashionable to blame OTD kids on hitting. @boruch, you're behind the times.  Now it's the internet!

[george]

eh not sure where you got that from.

Eh, from reading your post.
Read it again, you'll see.

[sky121]

Your making it sound horrible. IME a loving rebbe giving the appropriate slap, was a normal healthy part of school. Just like being sent to the principles office. Or writing out 500 times: I won't talk in class (-is that to much today also?).

I don't know your story, but from the kids I grew up with, I don't think that we were negatively affected at all.

I'm not saying some didn't do it lovingly but plenty didn't. And sometimes "power" and 'authority' gets to peoples head. I've heard plenty of stories.

And I also think many thought that instilling fear into kids however necessary was helpful.

[Sport]

Eh, from reading your post.
Read it again, you'll see.

  Not interested in going back and forth with you and clarifying every post I write. But I by no means think that hitting a child is appropriate.

[Freddie]

It's not about the title, Rather about the OP.... I know he is the OP without opening the thread.

+1 kinda sad actually. OP, is this a "schtick" or a cry for help?

[meshugener]

+1 kinda sad actually. OP, is this a "schtick" or a cry for help?

If you don't have anything contributive to post, keep your mouth shut and your hands of your keyboard.
Thank you and have a good night.

[Ergel]

Side note to your side note. Teachers in a religious school are considered religious leaders where I went to school. 

Side note to your side note to his side note. Where I come from to.

[ChAiM'l]

 

If you don't have anything contributive to post, keep your mouth shut and your hands of your keyboard.
Thank you and have a good night.

Coming from you... 

[yehuda S]

Coming from you... 

There is a difference between whimsical and malevolent.

[SamKey]

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