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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #140 on: February 26, 2014, 10:14:25 AM »
The TLV desk's policy is to insist there's no problem. This way people don't get mad.
They think people enjoy more sitting in the airport for 5 hours?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #141 on: February 26, 2014, 10:27:08 AM »
They think it's better than a stampede if they would admit there's a problem
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #142 on: February 26, 2014, 10:43:04 AM »
Supposedly the Rebbe is headed back to NYC tonight,  I'd guess he's flying back on UA91,  incoming Ua90 has a delayed arrival time of 930ish, 5 hours and 15 minutes late. The UA desk in tlv is insisting that the flight will departing on time.  Is it possible to get the plane ready within an hour and half?? I don't think so.....

The morning flight which leaves everyday at 1120am is turned around in 1:50 everyday as it arrives in tlv at 920am..the tlv outbound is thus delayed at times as even 30 min can make a difference.

When you need to connect in ewr to lax it can cause a missed connection if it's only 1.5 hours...that why I often try and make sure my connecting flight is the 715pm as I then have a shot at the final 815pm to lax.

Sometimes you miss it but then you get free hotel and comp ($350 per pax) and flight out in am first thing...

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #143 on: February 27, 2014, 06:08:15 AM »
Supposedly the Rebbe is headed back to NYC tonight,  I'd guess he's flying back on UA91,  incoming Ua90 has a delayed arrival time of 930ish, 5 hours and 15 minutes late. The UA desk in tlv is insisting that the flight will departing on time.  Is it possible to get the plane ready within an hour and half?? I don't think so.....

Update: im quite surprised, but ua90 landed at 9:35pm and 91 took off on time at 11:10pm. Must have been in the rebbe's zchus

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #144 on: February 27, 2014, 06:24:16 AM »
Update: im quite surprised, but ua90 landed at 9:35pm and 91 took off on time at 11:10pm. Must have been in the rebbe's zchus
neis nigla

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #145 on: February 27, 2014, 08:11:46 AM »
neis nigla
It's from the Sitre Achreh.  :P
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #146 on: February 28, 2014, 12:06:34 PM »
Do you think the rebba took a dip in the arizal mik?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #147 on: February 28, 2014, 01:19:46 PM »
Next question will be when did he go to the Western Wall ;)
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Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #148 on: March 01, 2014, 08:31:14 PM »
Next question will be when did he go to the Western Wall ;)

He was nearby the Western wall tearing his clothing


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Do you think the rebba took a dip in the arizal mik?

Yes he was @ the Arizal Mikvah

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #149 on: March 01, 2014, 09:48:38 PM »
He was nearby the Western wall tearing his clothing

He didn't go to the knesset to do kriah there?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #150 on: March 01, 2014, 10:22:58 PM »
deep stuff peoples.

I dont get Rebbe's honestly, they will travel to europe etc right and life, visit kevarim etc.. but rarely go to chevron, the belzer rebbe maybe once in 15 years, the satmarer's i dont recall, skver i remember etc

Any ways, theres a huge problem with the '67 logic. Firstly the lubavitcher rebbe always maintained "pamayim lo takum tzarah" hence that the generation of the holocaust was sheltered

Any ways, why would the sitra achara engineer the 6 day war victory ? more people became frum off it than went fryak in a tziyonit tzimus.

Pashut bottom line: zionist is essentially empty shell, their core ideology is long gone. But that may be true for satmar too

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #151 on: March 02, 2014, 12:44:49 AM »


I dont get Rebbe's honestly, they will travel to europe etc right and life, visit kevarim etc.. but rarely go to chevron, the belzer rebbe maybe once in 15 years, the satmarer's i dont recall, skver i remember etc
IINM chevron wasn't one of those mekoimes hakdoishim where ppl use to go.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #152 on: March 02, 2014, 01:45:42 AM »
IINM chevron wasn't one of those mekoimes hakdoishim where ppl use to go.

As opposed to tzfas and teverya ? maybe for stays bc chevron was historically never developed. But how do you go to kivrei tzadikim but shun the avot and imahot ? it can never be stated that the chevron community was zionist, maybe post '67 yes but the community is borderline chareidi.. take Shmuel "Zangy" Meidad, his family descends from prominent Vishitz Chasidim.

Chevron was, prior to 1929 generally sephardic, many stemming from spanish refugee's and chasidic, even with slabodka etc there was never much in terms of zionism besides Don Yoel Slonim HY'D

Any ways, as both mearat hamachpela till the 7th step and the kotel were available to jews prior to 1947, I dont get Rav Yoel's concept, since basically it wasent a zionist achievement.








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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #153 on: March 02, 2014, 01:49:47 AM »
BTW meshuganer: you cant be satmar in 2014, you need to be either aroni or zalmanist, I knew their father the beirach moshe zt'l very well. No machlokes leshem shamayim should cause brothers to fight

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #154 on: March 02, 2014, 03:50:38 AM »
IINM chevron wasn't one of those mekoimes hakdoishim where ppl use to go.
No need to focus on oldie fuddy duddies like the avos and imahos.
Nowadays, we have places like Amuka, which has been a holy place ever since they wanted tourist dollars a few decades ago.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #155 on: March 02, 2014, 11:47:14 AM »
As opposed to tzfas and teverya ? maybe for stays bc chevron was historically never developed. But how do you go to kivrei tzadikim but shun the avot and imahot ? it can never be stated that the chevron community was zionist, maybe post '67 yes but the community is borderline chareidi.. take Shmuel "Zangy" Meidad, his family descends from prominent Vishitz Chasidim.



The infamous Lapid family are descends from prominent Vishitz Chasidim as well.
Airlines sending me "We're in this together" emails.

Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #156 on: March 02, 2014, 11:50:40 AM »
No machlokes leshem shamayim should cause brothers to fight

What an absurd statement. What if one brother wants to donate shared funds to Iran?

There are definitely scenarios where fighting is right.
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #157 on: March 02, 2014, 11:54:37 AM »

The infamous Lapid family are descends from prominent Vishitz Chasidim as well.

Hardly a comparison, lets see, Baruch Nachshon is anti zionist ;)

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #158 on: March 02, 2014, 11:55:21 AM »
What an absurd statement. What if one brother wants to donate shared funds to Iran?

There are definitely scenarios where fighting is right.
Out of curiosity, what was it that caused the break-up? S/t as serious and impactful as that?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #159 on: March 02, 2014, 11:58:05 AM »
Out of curiosity, what was it that caused the break-up? S/t as serious and impactful as that?
No idea.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים