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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2014, 09:12:37 PM »
Quite Convenient.  I noticed no one ever blames something they themselves are nichshal in.
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2014, 09:26:37 PM »
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+1, seriously,  ::)

Betcha Mesh is gonna withdraw that olive branch in a hurry..

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #122 on: February 23, 2014, 09:33:04 PM »
(iii) Human minds can't understand Gdly logic and desires.

Otherwise do you believe that sitra achra caused the holocaust against Gds will?
For some unfathomable reason Gd decided to cause the holocaust.

Why did he do that? What can you say besides Tishbee?
I pretty sure that he was not implying that anything is against g-ds will.
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #123 on: February 23, 2014, 09:34:39 PM »
Ok folks, enough already:

 1967 war the Tziyonim won is not a ness
 Reb Yoel being saved by the Tziyonim  from holocaust is a ness.

We got your point..


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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #124 on: February 23, 2014, 09:37:02 PM »
Its pathetic how some, who for whatever reason dont want to accept his shittos, need to imply that he did not have the holiest of intentions in heart.


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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #125 on: February 23, 2014, 09:38:38 PM »
+1. I may STRONGLY disagree with his shitos, but why the need to disparage an adam gadol
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #126 on: February 23, 2014, 09:40:48 PM »
what about the "kvurim in beth shemesh" ?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #127 on: February 23, 2014, 09:42:15 PM »
what about the "kvurim in beth shemesh" ?
Lets start a thread and disscus.
BTW whats the bottom line, did RMS leave or stay?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #128 on: February 23, 2014, 09:43:12 PM »
... after a 15 min. talk he desided to stay

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #129 on: February 23, 2014, 09:49:26 PM »
Personally I never felt that he was an eida type. wtvr

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #130 on: February 23, 2014, 09:50:58 PM »
And so what caused the Inquisition?
Or every other tragedy to befall us?

Is Gd not ultimately responsible for everything? And does he really need to answer to us?
He actually explain's in the Hakdumeh for his seifer, that on every tragedy that happened, the gedoley hador were always looking in why it happened why God sent such tzureh to us, he gives a Mushel Tach Vetat IIRC, therefore he was looking what caused the holocaust and found that zionizim coused it.
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #131 on: February 23, 2014, 10:07:27 PM »

Its pathetic how some, who for whatever reason dont want to accept his shittos, need to imply that he did not have the holiest of intentions in heart.

It's not pathetic. It's critical.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #132 on: February 23, 2014, 10:09:20 PM »

+1. I may STRONGLY disagree with his shitos, but why the need to disparage an adam gadol

Like those who disparaged the Lubavitcher Rebbe?

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #133 on: February 23, 2014, 10:16:06 PM »
Like those who disparaged the Lubavitcher Rebbe?
Wrong thread.

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #134 on: February 23, 2014, 10:21:13 PM »
Personally I never felt that he was an eida type. wtvr
I heard that when they hired the original dayan Weiss from England (minchas yitzchak) people complained to the satmer rebbe that he wasn't enough of a kanoi.  The said listen to become a talmid chacham you can't do overnight.  To become a kanoi overnight is not difficult. 

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #135 on: February 23, 2014, 10:24:37 PM »
I assume what he meant by the koach of the sitra achara was not that it didn't originate from God (my understanding is that saying that is kefira) but just because something happened beyond tevah doesn't make it automatically correct. Like if a navi sheker produces a miracle and then tells you to violate the Torah we still look him. (Just explaining, not that I agree with the shitah)
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #136 on: February 23, 2014, 10:25:45 PM »


Betcha Mesh is gonna withdraw that olive branch in a hurry..
No, I would never do it.
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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #137 on: February 23, 2014, 11:47:16 PM »
No, I would never do it.
Course not! That would be insensitive :P ...

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #138 on: February 26, 2014, 09:32:21 AM »
Supposedly the Rebbe is headed back to NYC tonight,  I'd guess he's flying back on UA91,  incoming Ua90 has a delayed arrival time of 930ish, 5 hours and 15 minutes late. The UA desk in tlv is insisting that the flight will departing on time.  Is it possible to get the plane ready within an hour and half?? I don't think so.....

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Re: Satmar Rebbe (R, Aaron) EWR-TLV Trip Report
« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2014, 10:06:04 AM »
The TLV desk's policy is to insist there's no problem. This way people don't get mad.
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