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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2014, 11:41:23 AM »
The biggest change actually is for high value fliers. A $10K NY-London will earn some 130k miles compared to <50k now. Pretty incredible value if redemption levels stay the same.

I wonder if the main objective is to gain HVF market share.

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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2014, 11:46:58 AM »
The biggest change actually is for high value fliers. A $10K NY-London will earn some 130k miles compared to <50k now. Pretty incredible value if redemption levels stay the same.

I wonder if the main objective is to gain HVF market share.
130K? Even if they're diamond it's only 110K. 
Otherwise 50K/70K/80K/90K.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2014, 11:47:11 AM »
The biggest change actually is for high value fliers. A $10K NY-London will earn some 130k miles compared to <50k now. Pretty incredible value if redemption levels stay the same.

I wonder if the main objective is to gain HVF market share.

Even as a DIA member, I'm not sure how you get 130K.

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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2014, 11:50:18 AM »
130K? Even if they're diamond it's only 110K. 
Otherwise 50K/70K/80K/90K.

Nope. Max of 75K.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2014, 11:51:33 AM »
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2014, 11:53:52 AM »
Wow. Cheap $%^&

Yup. And to think Delta just keeps on getting lower and lower. Where does the well end.............
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2014, 11:53:52 AM »
So, as a DIA, anything more than $6818 on that flight earns you precisely... 0.

But, hey, as Kettle, feel free to spend $15K and be rewarded  ;D
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2014, 11:54:34 AM »
So, as a DIA, anything more than $6818 on that flight earns you precisely... 0.

So maybe the highest ticket price will the $6,818. That would be a nice dream.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2014, 11:57:40 AM »
So, as a DIA, anything more than $6818 on that flight earns you precisely... 0.
What is their logic?
Just baffling.

What happens if someone books a one-way ticket?  Is that capped at 37.5K?
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2014, 11:58:40 AM »
The mashmaos is that the 75K cap is per ticket, so if booking two OWs, you can theoretically earn 150K.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2014, 12:05:12 PM »
130K? Even if they're diamond it's only 110K. 
Otherwise 50K/70K/80K/90K.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2014, 12:05:24 PM »
What is their logic?
Just baffling.

What happens if someone books a one-way ticket?  Is that capped at 37.5K?
Baffling indeed. I thought the whole point is to reward high paying customers. Why limit them? Very strange.

And there is no way we see virgin to Australia (the only useful use for Skypesos) stay at anywhere near the current rates. It for sure goes to ~350K RT
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2014, 12:06:22 PM »
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Still gets nowhere near 130k.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2014, 12:11:26 PM »
Still gets nowhere near 130k.
Barring the 75k cap it would be 11 points  + 2* cc earning
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2014, 12:11:35 PM »
CC points
Every ticket earns cc points.
That Randy included that spin in his analysis is baffling.
Can do better on a SP or PRG than on the DL so just call it 14mpd while you're at it :P
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2014, 12:12:05 PM »
Still gets nowhere near 130k.
he probably didn't know about the 75k cap.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2014, 12:12:30 PM »
Baffling indeed. I thought the whole point is to reward high paying customers. Why limit them? Very strange.

And there is no way we see virgin to Australia (the only useful use for Skypesos) stay at anywhere near the current rates. It for sure goes to ~350K RT
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2014, 12:13:37 PM »
Barring the 75k cap it would be 11 points  + 2* cc earning

Barring Skymiles' restriction on redeeming for F, you'd be able to fly upfront on the KE A380 :)

Alas, there is such cap and restriction.
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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2014, 12:15:18 PM »
Barring Skymiles' restriction on redeeming for F, you'd be able to fly upfront on the KE A380 :)

Alas, there is such cap and restriction.
Is there potential for that type of restriction? Or is that also conjecture at this point?

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Re: Delta FF program going revenue based
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2014, 12:17:05 PM »
Is there potential for that type of restriction? Or is that also conjecture at this point?

They already restrict.
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