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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #315 on: March 10, 2014, 11:01:26 AM »
If everyone would have been charedi, they wouldn't need all this costs for sports teams, gang busters, theaters, jails for murderers and rapists and so much more.
I resent my tax dollars that I spend when I'm there going to fund this garbage.

Right, because there are no Chareidi murderers, rapists, sexual deviants, drug users, etc.  ::)

You're truly delusional.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #316 on: March 10, 2014, 11:04:26 AM »
SPEW! (special for Tolik ;) )

The army is not protecting those who learn Torah, it is the other way around. Rav Kook himself wrote that one who sits and learns Torah is doing more for the state than one who joins the army and fights.

Haredi participation in the workplace in Israel is much higher than some of you think. I personally paid the gov. direct taxes in the last 12 months over 45 thousand shekel. I get 340 shekel Kollel stipend, we pay bituach leumi double and we get 840 shekel children's allowance, which is in lieu of dependant deductible on income tax,

If you want to know what sharing the burden means, read the back of the 200 shekel bill.

It is a joke to call Haredim mooching off the gov and not working. Almost all Kollel wives work and many avreichim do too. You have a problem that they are not like you? They should live to work and work to live?!? They follow Rav Kook that Hashem gave us the Torah to live and to learn, if they choose to learn more and earn less, that is beautiful! If you want to go to the army and serve, kol hakovode!! Any Haredi can do that too, though even DL Rabbis agree that the army is not the right place for haredis. The new law is not helping anyone go to the army. Spew!

The gov. spends enormous amounts of money on theaters etc. You have no musag. Notice the recent campaign Jerusalem ihr hasratim? Hashem Yishmore!
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #317 on: March 10, 2014, 11:10:47 AM »
Right, because there are no Chareidi murderers, rapists, sexual deviants, drug users, etc.  ::)

You're truly delusional.

Here come no true Scotsman. 

Negligible when compared to the secular. One jail would suffice.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #318 on: March 10, 2014, 11:31:39 AM »
I get 340 shekel Kollel stipend, we pay bituach leumi double and we get 840 shekel children's allowance, which is in lieu of dependant deductible on income tax,

You get school for your kids and healthcare for your family, which depending on how many kids you have probably cost the government more than the $9000 annual taxes you're paying (45000 minus 1180/mo)
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #319 on: March 10, 2014, 11:33:04 AM »
The gov. spends enormous amounts of money on theaters etc. You have no musag. Notice the recent campaign Jerusalem ihr hasratim? Hashem Yishmore!
Every city does that and they make up for it in tax revenues
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #320 on: March 10, 2014, 11:48:00 AM »
Negligible when compared to the secular. One jail would suffice.


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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #321 on: March 10, 2014, 12:00:05 PM »

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #322 on: March 10, 2014, 12:09:33 PM »
Negligible when compared to the secular. One jail would suffice.

Haha, you are very naive

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #323 on: March 10, 2014, 12:11:48 PM »
Haha, you are very naive
Are you trying to say that the crime rate in Israel in the Frum community is just as high as in the non-Frum one?
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #324 on: March 10, 2014, 12:19:04 PM »
Are you trying to say that the crime rate in Israel in the Frum community is just as high as in the non-Frum one?
Financial crime definitely.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #325 on: March 10, 2014, 12:20:10 PM »
Financial crime definitely.


He was talking specifically about violent crimes...
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #326 on: March 10, 2014, 12:20:58 PM »
He was talking specifically about violent crimes...
Nope, it takes much more resources to fight financial crimes, and similar punishments
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #327 on: March 10, 2014, 12:25:46 PM »
Right, because there are no Chareidi murderers, rapists, sexual deviants, drug users, etc.  ::)

You're truly delusional.

Here come no true Scotsman. 
Negligible when compared to the secular. One jail would suffice.
Curiosity made the cat smarter.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #328 on: March 10, 2014, 01:08:41 PM »
I'm not sure if this pic of the Atzeres was posted yet.


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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #329 on: March 10, 2014, 01:17:17 PM »
I'm not sure if this pic of the Atzeres was posted yet.


I'm having trouble getting it to open. But why do i have a feeling that you are trying to bash frum yidden again?