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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2014, 01:19:58 PM »
great place to get facts about the frum olam, the secular Israeli media  ::)
If that said more then 300 then I wouldn't think there were 600:-[

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2014, 01:22:19 PM »


« Last Edit: March 02, 2014, 01:25:47 PM by PlatinumGuy »
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2014, 01:22:22 PM »
If that said more then 300 then I wouldn't think there were 600:-[
sorry, you could base ur 'facts' on the Israeli media. Others (myself included) would rather rely on our gedolim.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2014, 01:22:27 PM »
first of all quit ur attitude ! 2nd with no disrespect to any rabbis the fact is that less then 600 thousand, even one less is a brach levatala which according to the rambam is a issur  min hatorah. I just heard an Isrealy news station saying that there over 300 thousand a far cry from 600. And I heard that many rabbis did not say it !
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2014, 01:23:00 PM »
well sorry just that by living in lakewood it is understandable that such a attitude has built up by me ( I have had a first hand experience if a avrech fighting with the biggest rabbi in lakewood if what he paskend on his bad bedikah that is kosher is true or that he Dosent know what he is talking about.
Second if its true that Rav steinman said it than the anyone who opens their mouth should go to hell
well rav shteiman didn't count because nobody did exactly. People just tell him things. And who said he made the bracha ???

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2014, 01:25:09 PM »
sorry, you could base ur 'facts' on the Israeli media. Others (myself included) would rather rely on our gedolim.
I know of more gedolim that didn't say the bracha then which did. Any brisk rabbi did not say it gerer rebbe didn't say it. I just know one person which said it on he mike

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2014, 01:45:21 PM »
הארץ: 100,000 איש.
ערוץ 2: 300,000 איש.
וואלה: 400,000 איש.
ערוץ 10: 400,000 איש.
ניר ברקת: 500,000 איש.
המשטרה: 700,000 איש.

חישוב מהיר: 2,400,000 איש השתתפו בעצרת נגד חוק הגיוס.
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2014, 01:53:05 PM »
ynet in English says 300k attended, ynet Hebrew says 600000

@miles lover, you gotta learn not to believe everything you hear or read

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2014, 01:57:01 PM »
ynet in English says 300k attended, ynet Hebrew says 600000

@miles lover, you gotta learn not to believe everything you hear or read
that's what I'm trying to teach you and the rest of this thread !! Just because you hear that there are gonna be a million people it doesn't mean anything. And like I said before I know a lot more gedolim which didn't say the bracha than those that did. And if its a sofek dioraisa I would rather not have said it.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2014, 02:02:42 PM »
that's what I'm trying to teach you and the rest of this thread !! Just because you hear that there are gonna be a million people it doesn't mean anything. And like I said before I know a lot more gedolim which didn't say the bracha than those that did. And if its a sofek dioraisa I would rather not have said it.
You're full of it. Who said that there has to be exactly 600,000? Who said that you cant make the brocho of chochom harozim on R' chaim kanievsky?




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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2014, 02:05:12 PM »
Let's move this thread to the 'just shmooze' folder....
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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2014, 02:06:59 PM »
You're full of it. Who said that there has to be exactly 600,000? Who said that you cant make the brocho of chochom harozim on R' chaim kanievsky?
ur an am harretz ! Excuse me but Dont talk if u Dont know just do what ur good at and churn >:( The bracha is only if there is 600 like yotzei mitzraim. An I'm ready to bet with all my miles that rav shteiman himself didn't say it. I'm in isreal now an I'm hearing one after the next that people didn't say it and I'm jus feeling stupider that I did say it.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2014, 02:12:49 PM »
ur an am harretz ! Excuse me but Dont talk if u Dont know just do what ur good at and churn >:( The bracha is only if there is 600 like yotzei mitzraim. An I'm ready to bet with all my miles that rav shteiman himself didn't say it. I'm in isreal now an I'm hearing one after the next that people didn't say it and I'm jus feeling stupider that I did say it.

There are shitos in the reshonim that even by yotzei mitzrayim 600K was an approximation.

If you feel stupid dont worry, its natural.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2014, 02:17:02 PM »
If I would have been there and r baruch Mordechai would have got up on the mike and said it I would have said it big time if he says it I believe him way more then the next yatzmach on the street who thinks he knows everything and decides that he knows better

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