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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2014, 02:20:13 PM »
You're full of it. Who said that there has to be exactly 600,000? Who said that you cant make the brocho of chochom harozim on R' chaim kanievsky?
Who said it??? Just some big rabbi who lived a long time ago..... they called him the RAMBAM

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2014, 02:20:16 PM »
There are shitos in the reshonim that even by yotzei mitzrayim 600K was an approximation.

If you feel stupid dont worry, its natural.
list one please. And even so with the women and children there were for sure 600,000.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2014, 02:22:02 PM »
If I would have been there and r baruch Mordechai would have got up on the mike and said it I would have said it big time if he says it I believe him way more then the next yatzmach on the street who thinks he knows everything and decides that he knows better
that's why I said it but when I heard after how many people didn't say it including rav Abraham yehoshua salevitichik I would rather have not said it.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2014, 02:23:19 PM »
Who said it??? Just some big rabbi who lived a long time ago..... they called him the RAMAN
:):) and churnbabychurn is still fighting with me after he said that rav Chaim kanievsky thing !!

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2014, 02:25:45 PM »
Obviously the gemora and all the poskim use the terminology "shishim ribo". The question is whether when the poskim say "shishim ribo" it is an exact requirement or not.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2014, 02:26:11 PM »
There are shitos in the reshonim that even by yotzei mitzrayim 600K was an approximation.
Way to misquote a rosh.
If you are saying that 600K isn't accurate that may be kefirah (the rosh just says that the number 605,550 was rounded off, not that it was exaggerated)
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2014, 02:26:48 PM »
Obviously the gemora and all the poskim use the terminology "shishim ribo". The question is whether when the poskim say "shishim ribo" it is an exact requirement or not.
hell yeah it is. Its not like with banks and cc which we play around with understand ?

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2014, 02:29:27 PM »
Just heard that reb Baruch mordechai ezrachi when he said the bracha he was reading it from the gemara . and we were just supposed to answer amen just in case but we were not supposed to make the bracha with the Shem hasheam. Things are starting to fall in place

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2014, 02:36:26 PM »
:):) and churnbabychurn is still fighting with me after he said that rav Chaim kanievsky thing !!
. Lets start with scripture:
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The children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot, the men, besides the young children.       לז. וַיִּסְעוּ בְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל מֵרַעְמְסֵס סֻכֹּתָה כְּשֵׁשׁ מֵאוֹת אֶלֶף רַגְלִי הַגְּבָרִים לְבד מִטָּף:

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2014, 02:38:31 PM »
With respect,do you mean to say he thought that noone would repeat it after him???

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2014, 02:38:45 PM »
Just heard that reb Baruch mordechai ezrachi when he said the bracha he was reading it from the gemara . and we were just supposed to answer amen just in case but we were not supposed to make the bracha with the Shem hasheam. Things are starting to fall in place
Stop with your narishkeit. The gemara does not include shem umalchus.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #71 on: March 02, 2014, 02:38:58 PM »
. Lets start with scripture:
not sure what ur saying

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2014, 02:41:20 PM »
With respect,do you mean to say he thought that noone would repeat it after him???
According the miles lovers theory it would be a chashas of Omen yesoma. A terrible thing. See upost where I linked to a pesak from a posek.

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2014, 02:41:27 PM »
With respect,do you mean to say he thought that noone would repeat it after him???
officially he said to everybody on the mike not to say it and just to answer amen. But it wasn't that clear. People for sure heard that he said to answer amen. Obviously because of the above

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Re: million man atzeres
« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2014, 02:44:12 PM »
not sure what ur saying
Basically that you should first learn chumash. After that you will be eligible to critique your first grade rebbe.
When you get more advanced you can talk about R' ezrachi.