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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 07:37:06 PM »
You asked for our opinion, we gave it to you.

I actually answered twice:

How about you TOFTT and sign up, if you get a debit card you can refer us too, maybe you'll get something on the MLM side too.

If you're so confident, go for it.
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2011, 12:58:12 AM »
and i answered that i know people that have gotten giftcards..............

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2011, 01:03:39 AM »
and i answered that i know people that have gotten giftcards..............

So, go for it.

You offered, we're not interested.

You don't agree with our reasoning, so let's just agree to disagree. End of discussion.
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2011, 01:08:48 AM »
dude u didnt have "reasoning" u just dared me to do it........and i told u that i know people that have

i didnt offer anything--i wanted to know whats the real deal on this...  no such thing as free money

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2011, 01:10:20 AM »
dude u didnt have "reasoning" u just dared me to do it........and i told u that i know people that have

i didnt offer anything--i wanted to know whats the real deal on this...  no such thing as free money

We (Dan, Chaikel, and I) did have reasoning - MLM. End of discussion. I'll let someone else spell this out if they think it's worth the effort.
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2011, 02:17:30 AM »
let me clarify again i am not referring to the MLM aspect of this--i am referring to the discounted gift card aspect...!
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2011, 02:19:30 AM »
I believe I've  said this here before: I will not give my money to a company which I don't know how they are making money. In the end they'll make money off me, somehow.
so your just not doing offers like this because ur afraid of losing a few dollars...good enough reason  but if you knew people actually making money would u join?

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2011, 02:22:07 AM »
so your just not doing offers like this because ur afraid of losing a few dollars...good enough reason  but if you knew people actually making money would u join?
Would you have "invested" money in Madoff after you saw others making tons of money?

Article worth reading:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-ap-madoff-clawback-dupe,0,7165580.story
Even the one that made $7B in the Madoff scam had to give it back.

I don't put money into shady things and this is as shady as it gets.

Pyramids/Ponzis/MLM call it whatever you want it's always the same business model and it winds up hurting many gullible folks.  I want no part of it which is why I took a stand against it and have turned down tons of good money in order to save more people from going down a sorry road.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi_level_marketing 
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2011, 02:48:34 AM »
dan i respect your opinion  my comment wasnt directed towards you..

but dan - is that you dont want anything to do with the company - even the the part thats not mlm ?

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2011, 03:04:33 AM »
but dan - is that you dont want anything to do with the company - even the the part thats not mlm ?
Back to my analogy.
If Madoff also sold dollar coins at half price would you involved in such a business? It's obviously just a ploy to make the business look "legitimate."  After all you need to sell a product!

But ultimately what pays the bills is the continued recruiting of new suckers.  Once the suckers have run out the whole thing collapses.
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2011, 03:55:08 AM »
I'm not sure what you don't understand. I have done similar offers in the past, but there I knew exactly how they were making money (signing up people to recurring payments on a CC and not really telling them) so I knew what to watch out for. Here, who knows? I told my reasoning to one of the pyramid bricks and he told me that he would look into it. He gets back to me and tells me that they make money from the online shopping they (used to?) have. I told him that I don't think that's enough to cover it all, so I'm not getting involved.

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2011, 09:19:02 AM »
Back to my analogy.
If Madoff also sold dollar coins at half price would you involved in such a business? It's obviously just a ploy to make the business look "legitimate."  After all you need to sell a product!

But ultimately what pays the bills is the continued recruiting of new suckers.  Once the suckers have run out the whole thing collapses.
+1 this is the best explanation imo.

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2011, 01:11:26 PM »
so to sum it up we got reasons not to do this:
1) (asher0) afraid wont work-too good to be true
2)(elikay) since dont know how it works dont get involved
3)(dan) dont get involved with company that ends up taking advantage of other people-basically a moral-ethical thing

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2011, 02:48:11 PM »

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2011, 05:18:44 AM »
http://www.articlesnatch.com/Article/My-Harvest-America-Will-Fail/909207
I'm sure there are many more links.
Notice how they started by actually offering groceries at rock-bottom prices.  While that looked more legitimate (after all who knows what they really pay for groceries?)  But obviously that got too expensive so now they just subsidize GC's by the continued recruitment of suckers to pay the bills.

It can't last forever.  I guarantee it.
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2011, 05:19:31 PM »
A shame you have pity on the people, otherwise I'd suggest to open a new mlm, right here and now.
We would be the top level, and raking profits.

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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2011, 05:41:23 PM »
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2011, 06:34:17 PM »
A shame you have pity on the people, otherwise I'd suggest to open a new mlm, right here and now.
We would be the top level, and raking profits.

Only that DD/DDF is actually a sustainable business model :D
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Re: My Harvest America $300 for only $255 per month
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2011, 09:41:17 PM »
A shame you have pity on the people, otherwise I'd suggest to open a new mlm, right here and now.
We would be the top level, and raking profits.
The top people do indeed make a killing.  There's no denying that.
But once again, so did Madoff.
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