Author Topic: Help with noise in basement (Read 10509 times)

dudi · « **on:** March 05, 2014, 11:05:01 PM »

We live in a basement and the people upstairs from us seem to have a issue with keeping quiet in sleeping time it is really crazy the amount of noise they make.
We spoke to them a couple of times and it didn't help at all.
So we are trying to figure out a solution that we will not hear them.
We tried normal ear plugs and they didn't help since the noise is too loud I was thinking about a noise machine but I don't think its gonna help.
I wanted to know if anyone has suggestions about what we can do about this?
Thanks in advance

asd · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:25:07 PM »

If the upstairs are renters complain to landlord nobody should need earplugs in their own house

Baruch · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:31:02 PM »

Quote from: dudi on March 05, 2014, 11:05:01 PM

We live in a basement and the people upstairs from us seem to have a issue with keeping quiet in sleeping time it is really crazy the amount of noise they make.
We spoke to them a couple of times and it didn't help at all.
So we are trying to figure out a solution that we will not hear them.
We tried normal ear plugs and they didn't help since the noise is too loud I was thinking about a noise machine but I don't think its gonna help.
I wanted to know if anyone has suggestions about what we can do about this?
Thanks in advance

noise machine helped for me. But I don't think the noise was as bad as yours.

ilherman · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:36:24 PM »

Quote from: dudi on March 05, 2014, 11:05:01 PM

We live in a basement and the people upstairs from us seem to have a issue with keeping quiet in sleeping time it is really crazy the amount of noise they make.
We spoke to them a couple of times and it didn't help at all.
So we are trying to figure out a solution that we will not hear them.
We tried normal ear plugs and they didn't help since the noise is too loud I was thinking about a noise machine but I don't think its gonna help.
I wanted to know if anyone has suggestions about what we can do about this?
Thanks in advance

Is it a old house? Some houses are old and you just hear everything whats going on upstairs, your upstairs neighbor might just talk on the phone or walk around and you think that he is screaming and banging.

dudi · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:38:46 PM »

Quote from: ilherman on March 05, 2014, 11:36:24 PM

Is it a old house? Some houses are old and you just hear everything whats going on upstairs, your upstairs neighbor might just talk on the phone or walk around and you think that he is screaming and banging.

no that is what they are doing just they talk very loud and I guess we just hear every time they walk.
And no it is a new house not old at all.

dudi · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:39:13 PM »

Quote from: asd on March 05, 2014, 11:25:07 PM

If the upstairs are renters complain to landlord nobody should need earplugs in their own house

I agree the problem is that he is the landlord

Baruch · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:40:53 PM »

Quote from: dudi on March 05, 2014, 11:39:13 PM

I agree the problem is that he is the landlord

Speak to a Rav, if he really is being overloud you may be able to withold rent.

ilherman · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:42:29 PM »

Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2014, 11:40:53 PM

Speak to a Rav, if he really is being overloud you may be able to withold rent.

Doubt it. He may just look for a different apartment.

dudi · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:44:43 PM »

What about the contract?

asd · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:50:14 PM »

if it is unlivable he isnt keeping to his end of the contract

Baruch · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:53:14 PM »

Quote from: ilherman on March 05, 2014, 11:42:29 PM

Doubt it. He may just look for a different apartment.

You'd be surprised how many stories I heard of Rabbanim getting very tough with landlords for not treating tenants properly, even for small infractions. Some Rabbanim are very pro renters.

dudi · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:53:24 PM »

How do I prove it to him I have sent him many times texts that they are on top of us making noise and we can't fall asleep and he just send back that he Dosent know what I'm talking about there is no one there.
And that is while his wife is screaming on the top of her lungs right on top of us

Baruch · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:55:57 PM »

@dudi, if you live in Lakewood, I can pm you some very very pro renter Rabbanim who will set your landlord straight.

asd · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:56:02 PM »

is it a dysfuncional situation ?

MarkS · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2014, 12:02:58 AM »

I just want to point out that often normal every day living can unintentionally make a lot of noise in the basement. I lived in a basement for a few years and had a lot of noise and I have no complaints against the guy because I realize that little things like moving around chairs and vacuuming are normal usage and can sound very loud downstairs when he has no clue what it sounds like.

Now rollerskating indoors on the other hand....

My best eitza is that next time there is a lot of noise, ask him (non-confrontationally) to come downstairs and hear what it sounds like. It may be an eye (ear) opening experience for him.

AnonymousUser · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2014, 12:17:14 AM »

Quote from: MarkS on March 06, 2014, 12:02:58 AM

I just want to point out that often normal every day living can unintentionally make a lot of noise in the basement. I lived in a basement for a few years and had a lot of noise and I have no complaints against the guy because I realize that little things like moving around chairs and vacuuming are normal usage and can sound very loud downstairs when he has no clue what it sounds like.

Now rollerskating indoors on the other hand....

My best eitza is that next time there is a lot of noise, ask him (non-confrontationally) to come downstairs and hear what it sounds like. It may be an eye (ear) opening experience for him.

+1
FME and from speaking to my friends, it seems like every basement has noise.
My landlord has a very active 5yo boy, and they told us straight out that they try quieting him and they feel bad, and if it ever bothers us we should just bang on the ceiling with a broom. The problem is that it's pretty constant and we're embarrassed to constantly complain. So we don't have anything against them; we'll either just bear it, or move soon to an upstairs apartment.
Of course, if your situation is where they're doing something abnormal, that's different.

dudi · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2014, 12:31:06 AM »

That's the thing that they are not and that is why my q. Is is there anything for us to do like that we won't hear them?
I'm starting to feel like a old man complaining every second the problem is that I don't have what to do

notanonymous · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2014, 12:32:16 AM »

Quote from: dudi on March 06, 2014, 12:31:06 AM

That's the thing that they are not and that is why my q. Is is there anything for us to do like that we won't hear them?
I'm starting to feel like a old man complaining every second the problem is that I don't have what to do

Lakewood or Brooklyn? How much longer on lease?

dudi · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2014, 12:37:29 AM »

Quote from: notanonymous on March 06, 2014, 12:32:16 AM

Lakewood or Brooklyn? How much longer on lease?

lakewood, half a year

notanonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2014, 12:41:52 AM »

Quote from: dudi on March 06, 2014, 12:37:29 AM

lakewood, half a year

In Lakewood it is easy enough to find a new place. IMO, for the sake of shalom, deal with it, and not renew. If you have already spoken with him, and nothing changed, it probably won't, no matter what. The din may be with you, but IMO it is not worth it to pursue.