Author Topic: Why does jewish entertainment and literature suck? (fixed title)  (Read 12728 times)

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Yeah I know its a negative start, but every time I pick up a "jewish" book it feels like some one took a cheesy dime novel and kashered it ?

I got to thinking, we have our jewish artists galore, we are BOMBARDED with jewish music (some just kashered from the non jewish world)

But we are the people of the book, I dont see any real jewish output, save for marcus lehman but that was 100+ years ago.  The truth is that much of my favorite books tend to be "kosher'sh" like take John Steinbeck, I feel like I gain something from his books. Leon uris.. It's a issue because many kids are limited by their parents / school to just jewish books, they read and may not be content thus sending them elsewhere to read trash.

Movies wise, Documentaries would be amazing.. also after watching despicable me 1 (i was a few years late) I find out that most frum people I know watched it.. but a kosher pixar could be amazing and there is nothing stopping it from being a commercial success mainstream.

Im not looking to criticize, I also may woefully be out of touch with jewish books and movies, I gave up on them 15 years ago

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 11:33:26 PM »
Um, you forgot ushpizin :P
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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 11:36:44 PM »
Um, you forgot ushpizin :P

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2014, 11:38:41 PM »
We need to make a movie of Rabbi Lau's book

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 11:39:54 PM »
We need to make a movie of Rabbi Lau's book
Or Jacob Ostreicher's ordeal and escape from Bolivia.

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 12:00:44 AM »
Marcus Lehman was pretty much a copy of the German books of his time as well. The place good Jewish literature is at is seforim and Artscroll translations (which are works of art) . Most Jewish writers aren't very worldly or educated and write to their level and to the readers level...

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2014, 12:03:46 AM »
Marcus Lehman was pretty much a copy of the German books of his time as well. The place good Jewish literature is at is seforim and Artscroll translations (which are works of art) . Most Jewish writers aren't very worldly or educated and write to their level and to the readers level...
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Most Jewish readers nowadays haven't read anything else, so for them the standard isn't very high.

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 12:04:04 AM »

We need to make a movie of Rabbi Lau's book

+1 That was the best Jewish book I've read in a long time.

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 12:06:04 AM »
+1 That was the best Jewish book I've read in a long time.

Yep, changed my life forever in a good way, I just emailed a good friend that shoots films in hollywood, he says "come up with 2 millon dollars you got a movie"

Instead of internet asifa's they should fund this

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 12:06:20 AM »
@OP always helps to spell correctly when discussing other people's (lack of) writing ability

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2014, 12:11:01 AM »
+1 That was the best Jewish book I've read in a long time.
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When I first came to Israel, my uncle gave me a dictionary and Rav Lau's book in Hebrew. This was before it was translated, so I've only read it in Hebrew. :)

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2014, 12:11:16 AM »
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Most Jewish readers nowadays haven't read anything else, so for them the standard isn't very high.

I read his books at age 8, maybe 10 times each, josselman of roseheim, the count y eguilar wow the memories!!

http://www.goodreads.com/author/list/596650.Marcus_Lehmann

Then I got an unabridged copy of the 3 musketeers, ate up all 1200 pages, after that any thing was game, John Grisham replaced Talmud Bavli and 1000 books later I am probably no wiser but more thoughtful 

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2014, 12:13:09 AM »
@OP always helps to spell correctly when discussing other people's (lack of) writing ability

While I did not ever attend any form of secular education, my spelling is usually great. My grammar and punctuation I make up ;) i'm  little lazy tonight.

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2014, 12:13:48 AM »
John Grisham replaced Talmud Bavli and 1000 books later I am probably no wiser but more thoughtful
I like that line. Maybe YOU should become a writer.

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2014, 12:14:31 AM »
While I did not ever attend any form of secular education, my spelling is usually great. My grammar and punctuation I make up ;) i'm  little lazy tonight.
look at the subject of this topic (if you aren't sure what I am referring to)

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2014, 12:15:34 AM »
look at the subject of this topic
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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2014, 12:18:47 AM »
I read his books at age 8, maybe 10 times each, josselman of roseheim, the count y eguilar wow the memories!!

http://www.goodreads.com/author/list/596650.Marcus_Lehmann

Then I got an unabridged copy of the 3 musketeers, ate up all 1200 pages, after that any thing was game, John Grisham replaced Talmud Bavli and 1000 books later I am probably no wiser but more thoughtful
Seriously you read the full 3 Musketeers? Dumas is very boring at times - mostly because he wrote his books as a serial one chapter at a time, makes him very boring at times especially in some of his other works.

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2014, 12:18:58 AM »
I like that line. Maybe YOU should become a writer.

I used to write.. but then I realized that I was just young and full of hot air..

Book suggestions:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Samurai-Vishogrod-Notebooks-Marateck/dp/0827601905/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394082941&sr=8-1

Like WOW AMAZING ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS EVER!!

I read that book about 7 years ago and I was always hoping the rest of his memoirs would be published and a few years ago I found them!

www.amazon.com/The-Accidental-Anarchist-Bryna-Kranzler/dp/0984556303/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394083013&sr=8-1&

This would make an extraordinary movie!


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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2014, 12:20:04 AM »
Seriously you read the full 3 Musketeers? Dumas is very boring at times - mostly because he wrote his books as a serial one chapter at a time, makes him very boring at times especially in some of his other works.

I was 12 and in a hospital bed for 10 days.. I read it all, never understand parts like why was the lady branded ? and other stuff they dont teach you in yeshiva v'dal

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Re: Why does jewish entertainment and litteture suck?
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2014, 12:20:55 AM »
look at the subject of this topic (if you aren't sure what I am referring to)

Further reinforcing my point ;)