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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2014, 03:12:31 AM »
MY FIL is supposed to be flying them KUL-TPE in april........
Is moish your FIL?  ;)

I didn't think my imagination would actually stop anyone from flying them

and unfortunately it didn't
There was a Siberian jew on the plane
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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2014, 03:14:05 AM »
Is it possible to have climbed really high and then come back down fast enough to disintegrate?
yes like the space shuttle but there should be some debris acroos the sea. Its not an ocean....

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2014, 03:14:58 AM »
yes like the space shuttle but there should be some debris acroos the sea. Its not an ocean....
Thats what i was thinking. but if it disintegrates then there would be no debris…
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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2014, 03:17:58 AM »
Thats what i was thinking. but if it disintegrates then there would be no debris…
BY the space shuttle there were lots and it disintegrated really high, it was just be spread over a larger area

Being that its pretty much certain that 2 people who bought tickets together were using stolen passports maybe the plane turned off the route and then crashed later somewhere else and their all searching the wrong place. The oil slicks could have come from anywhere or a decoy fuel dump.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2014, 03:19:39 AM »
BY the space shuttle there were lots and it disintegrated really high, it was just be spread over a larger area

Being that its pretty much certain that 2 people who bought tickets together were using stolen passports maybe the plane turned off the route and then crashed later somewhere else and their all searching the wrong place. The oil slicks could have come from anywhere or a decoy fuel dump.
The plane would is able tp go off radar just like that if they want?
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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2014, 03:21:10 AM »
The plane would is able tp go off radar just like that if they want?
it is possible but if i knew all the answers id be....

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2014, 04:01:08 AM »
The plane would is able tp go off radar just like that if they want?

Yes, if you turn off the transponder in the cockpit the plane could go off the radar.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2014, 04:26:14 AM »
Yes, if you turn off the transponder in the cockpit the plane could go off the radar.
according to wikipedia there are 2 types of radar,
Primary- It is a passive radar that senses aircraft by pinging radio waves off the skin of the airplane.

Secondary Radar- which when it receives the primary ping, it responds with information about the plane.

If you shut off the transponder, i think you would deactivate the secondary radar, but the primary is passive that cannot be controlled from the plane.  Im sure that they are researching if there were any radar hits that they could not id which plane it was.

The question is, is it possible that you can fly for awhile without any form of radar hit.... could they have gone "off the grid". I personally doubt it. But i have no clue of the range of radar etc.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2014, 04:29:56 AM »
according to wikipedia there are 2 types of radar,
Primary- It is a passive radar that senses aircraft by pinging radio waves off the skin of the airplane.

Secondary Radar- which when it receives the primary ping, it responds with information about the plane.

If you shut off the transponder, i think you would deactivate the secondary radar, but the primary is passive that cannot be controlled from the plane.  Im sure that they are researching if there were any radar hits that they could not id which plane it was.

The question is, is it possible that you can fly for awhile without any form of radar hit.... could they have gone "off the grid". I personally doubt it. But i have no clue of the range of radar etc.
That's my biggest question. How can the FAA (or any govt let plans have the option to fly solo)
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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2014, 06:59:20 AM »
IIRC 2 days later they found debris. 2 months later the black box

For a plane to totally disappear in the sea is mysterious. unless it was blown up at 35,000 feet. and even then there would be debris.


I think it took a few months to find the Air France plane, just have some patients they will find the Plane,  it may take a few weeks, a few months a year or 2  but they will find it.

By AF447, they didn't find the FDR for 2 YEARS, buy they basically knew what happened, cuz AF dispatch has received all warning msgs that went off on the flight deck. Here MAS didn't receive any msgs. Another point, the avg depth of the Gulf of Thailand is 150ft, and the most is 250ft, when the Atlantic Ocean is much more...

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2014, 08:17:09 AM »
Most likely the stolen passport stories are meaningless as the majority of flights in that part of the world have a couple of passengers flying on "borrowed" or stolen passports

I'm sure its only a matter of time until the Malaysian media starts cooking up Mossad links

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2014, 09:24:19 AM »
I saw yesterday in the Israeli news that the family's are bugging out bcs a couple of them tried calling the ppl on the plane after they disappeared and it went through they just didn't answer which is weird bcs it's not supposed to go through if they are down in the ocean

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2014, 09:25:46 AM »
Nothing found yet whatsoever.
It really might have disintegrated.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2014, 10:05:28 AM »
I saw yesterday in the Israeli news that the family's are bugging out bcs a couple of them tried calling the ppl on the plane after they disappeared and it went through they just didn't answer which is weird bcs it's not supposed to go through if they are down in the ocean
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-eerie-moment-3222919

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2014, 01:14:17 PM »

By AF447, they didn't find the FDR for 2 YEARS, buy they basically knew what happened, cuz AF dispatch has received all warning msgs that went off on the flight deck. .
IINM the pilot of AF447 didn't send any emergency signals.
It all happened in seconds, before the pilot had a chance to realize it was all gone.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2014, 01:32:02 PM »
IINM the pilot of AF447 didn't send any emergency signals.
It all happened in seconds, before the pilot had a chance to realize it was all gone.

He didn't say that the pilot sent them. Some messages are sent automatically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447#Automated_messages

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2014, 02:37:24 PM »
Any chances the flight landed safely by two hijackers in a third world country and all pax being held hostage? 
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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2014, 02:38:28 PM »
Just saw in Israeli news that a Iranian guy bought the tickets for guys with the fake passports so they are worried that it was kidnapped

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Re: Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Missing (Assumed Crashed)
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2014, 02:38:34 PM »
Any chances the flight landed safely by two hijackers in a third world country and all pax being held hostage?
How would it disappear from radar?