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shmebeble · « **Reply #60 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:38:55 PM »

Quote from: dudi on March 10, 2014, 02:38:28 PM

Just saw in Israeli news that a Iranian guy bought the tickets for guys with the fake passports so they are worried that it was kidnapped

hijacked

Ergel · « **Reply #61 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:41:01 PM »

Quote from: meshugener on March 10, 2014, 02:37:24 PM

Any chances the flight landed safely by two hijackers in a third world country and all pax being held hostage?

Seems so unlikely. Why would they not have released demands yet.

tzvicoco · « **Reply #62 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:44:00 PM »

Now they're saying the oil slicks they found aren't even from the airplane.

avremie · « **Reply #63 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:50:17 PM »

The US navy did not pick up on any mid air explosion they have plenty of radar out there to against NK and China. Its one of the heaviest militarized areas in the world.

meshugener · « **Reply #64 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:58:51 PM »

Quote from: avremie on March 10, 2014, 02:50:17 PM

The US navy did not pick up on any mid air explosion they have plenty of radar out there to against NK and China. Its one of the heaviest militarized areas in the world.

You give the impression you're posting now from the situation room.

dudi · « **Reply #65 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:59:48 PM »

Quote from: shmebeble on March 10, 2014, 02:38:55 PM

hijacked

sorry

Something Fishy · « **Reply #66 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:00:49 PM »

An airliner enroute to Hong Kong has reported a large debris field off Ho Chi Minh City - http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

Marco Polo · « **Reply #67 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:04:03 PM »

Quote from a worker at the travel agency who sold the tickets with the stolen passports names;

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The travel agency's owner, Benjaporn Krutnait, told The Financial Times she believed Mr. Ali was not connected to terrorism because he had asked for cheapest tickets to Europe and did not specify the Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight.

If that is not suspect, what is?!

dudi · « **Reply #68 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:05:06 PM »

Quote from: Something Fishy on March 10, 2014, 03:00:49 PM

An airliner enroute to Hong Kong has reported a large debris field off Ho Chi Minh City - http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

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Marco Polo · « **Reply #69 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:05:59 PM »

Quote from: dudi on March 10, 2014, 03:05:06 PM

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Worked for me.

Mordy788 · « **Reply #70 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:08:11 PM »

Quote from: satturn on March 10, 2014, 04:26:14 AM

according to wikipedia there are 2 types of radar,
Primary- It is a passive radar that senses aircraft by pinging radio waves off the skin of the airplane.

Secondary Radar- which when it receives the primary ping, it responds with information about the plane.

If you shut off the transponder, i think you would deactivate the secondary radar, but the primary is passive that cannot be controlled from the plane. Im sure that they are researching if there were any radar hits that they could not id which plane it was.

The question is, is it possible that you can fly for awhile without any form of radar hit.... could they have gone "off the grid". I personally doubt it. But i have no clue of the range of radar etc.

There is Civilian Air Traffic Control Radar and Military Radar which operates very differently.

Civilian ATC heavily relies on the Aircraft's Transponder, each plane is assigned one by ATC and/or ADS-B which is more advanced than just the Aircraft Transponder. The Airline can also communicate and track the aircraft via their ACARS system which is in constant communication with the aircraft.

An Aircraft can turn off its Transponder and ADS-B and it will be difficult for ATC radar to track but not impossible. Military Radar would have no problem tracking the aircraft especially if it was a Target Acquisition/Tracking type of Radar where they can get all the information using Radar alone that civilian ATC needs the Transponder on for that info.

The area where the aircraft was flying is saturated by air defense radar. The South China Sea is extremely tense with territorial disputes and countries in that area have extremely powerful military radar that I am sure they are all playing back to see if they can track the aircraft.

Mordy788 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:10:25 PM »

Quote from: avremie on March 10, 2014, 02:50:17 PM

The US navy did not pick up on any mid air explosion they have plenty of radar out there to against NK and China. Its one of the heaviest militarized areas in the world.

US Military have satellites that detect explosions throughout the world. Primary reason is to detect missile launches, it is not radar.

There were no US ships in the immediate area at time of disaster.

Joe4007 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:10:52 PM »

Doesn't the US military have constant satellite surveillance of most of the world?

chff · « **Reply #73 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:12:13 PM »

Quote from: meshugener on March 10, 2014, 01:14:17 PM

IINM the pilot of AF447 didn't send any emergency signals.
It all happened in seconds, before the pilot had a chance to realize it was all gone.

Mordy788 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:17:24 PM »

Quote from: Joe4007 on March 10, 2014, 03:10:52 PM

Doesn't the US military have constant satellite surveillance of most of the world?

Not the whole world at all times. However that is an area that is monitored by the US military. However, Chinese, Vietnamese, South Korean, and Singapore armed forces have the area saturated with coverage.

The Air France flight that was lost in 2010 was actually outside of any radar coverage which made things really difficult. However, ACARS on the Airbus was transmitting the whole time back to Air France Headquarters and they had an idea what went wrong. In this case, nothing has been released to the public. I wish they would release those ACARS records for MH370

avremie · « **Reply #75 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:18:15 PM »

Quote from: meshugener on March 10, 2014, 02:58:51 PM

You give the impression you're posting now from the situation room.

just reporting what I read like everyone else here.

Something Fishy · « **Reply #76 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:19:02 PM »

Quote from: dudi on March 10, 2014, 03:05:06 PM

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Hong Kong's Air Traffic Control Center reported on Mar 10th 2014 around 17:30L (09:30Z) that an airliner enroute on airway L642 reported via HF radio that they saw a large field of debris at position N9.72 E107.42 about 80nm southeast of Ho Chi Minh City, about 50nm off the south-eastern coast of Vietnam in the South China Sea and about 281nm northeast of the last known radar position. Ships have been dispatched to the reported debris field.

Vietnam's Headquarters for the Search and Rescue operation of MH-370 confirmed receiving the report by Hong Kong's Air Traffic Control Center stating that a Hong Kong based airliner reported a large field of debris while enroute on airway L642. A Thai cargo ship in the area was asked for assistance and has set course to the area but did not find anything unusual so far. A second vessel asked for assistance did find some debris. Following this finding Vietnam's Maritime Search and Rescue Services (MRCC) dispatched a ship to the debris field.

Hong Kong's Civil Aviation Department confirmed a Cathay Pacific flight from Hong Kong to Kuala Lumpur spotted large amount of debris while enroute off the coast of South East Vietnam.

avremie · « **Reply #77 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:27:17 PM »

UK daily mail
The United States extensively reviewed imagery taken by American spy satellites for evidence of a mid-air explosion, but saw none, a U.S. government source said. The source described U.S. satellite coverage of the region as thorough.

damaxer91 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 10, 2014, 03:53:49 PM »

I can't get over how Interpol still uses One-Way Tickets as a red-flag when looking for terrorists. Like they don't know to book Round-Trips by now

AJK · « **Reply #79 on:** March 10, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »

Times are tough... even for terrorists

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