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Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?

Yes
12 (17.9%)
No
34 (50.7%)
Not the Army but some form of service
9 (13.4%)
It's complicated
9 (13.4%)
I don't have an opinion
3 (4.5%)

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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #680 on: May 08, 2025, 07:39:57 AM »
we all know that hesder is next in the seculars crosshairs

That's a stretch.  Lots of people who have done hundreds of days in milium came from hesder

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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #681 on: May 08, 2025, 07:43:10 AM »
That's a stretch.  Lots of people who have done hundreds of days in milium came from hesder
That doesn't mean that the secular left don't hate the concept of hesder, or religion etc...
But yes, it is a stretch at this point.

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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #682 on: May 11, 2025, 09:44:22 AM »

for the non hebrew speakers there is auto english translation

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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #683 on: May 11, 2025, 10:12:17 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #684 on: May 11, 2025, 11:22:15 AM »

for the non hebrew speakers there is auto english translation
He can't be speaking off the cuff.
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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #685 on: Yesterday at 05:12:52 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/408716
Brig. Gen. Shai Taib tells Knesset committee that most draft evaders are not haredi, citing limited enforcement tools and a rise in evasion following cancellation of legal frameworks.
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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #686 on: Yesterday at 08:48:40 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/408716
Brig. Gen. Shai Taib tells Knesset committee that most draft evaders are not haredi, citing limited enforcement tools and a rise in evasion following cancellation of legal frameworks.
The title takes everything out of context. He was talking about people arrested/stopped at the border. You have to reach certain stages before they put out a border stop on you. I am not sure why A7 decided this was a good title or what they're trying to accomplish

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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #687 on: Yesterday at 09:12:16 AM »
The title takes everything out of context. He was talking about people arrested/stopped at the border. You have to reach certain stages before they put out a border stop on you. I am not sure why A7 decided this was a good title or what they're trying to accomplish
I thought it was out of context for a different reason - that they only just started drafting Chareidim in any large numbers, so it stands to reason that most evaders are not Chareidim - yet.
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Re: Should chareidim be forced to go to the army?
« Reply #688 on: Yesterday at 09:34:54 AM »
I thought it was out of context for a different reason - that they only just started drafting Chareidim in any large numbers, so it stands to reason that most evaders are not Chareidim - yet.
Right that's also part of the out of context but at least in the video clip they only talked about airports