While we all agree that bochrim should not be removed from yeshiva I think its very disturbing the disrespect some charedim show to those that do serve. They actually risk their lives protecting them too. Imagine we in American would show the same attitude towards our military.
The swamp is where they were before they became bt's. Now they're the cream of the crop.
no one disrespects the chilonim.
Seems like Moshe123 invalidates your point imho
nah, he's just responding to people implying that the chareidim are the race baiters and instigators of this hatred. An absolute fallacy. Chareidim have no interest in bashing the chilonim. Only when they are victims of attempted social engineering by people who can't fa'gin do they respond this way.
C'mon, you know as well as I that Chareidim are generally elitist xenophobes. Not all of them go out and disrespect others and preach their feelings/beliefs, but 99% of them feel that way.
The mizrachi think that by being kofrim apologists, they are mekarev Jews to Judaism. The opposite is happening. Their youth (and elders) are going the way of the reform plus their visceral hatred of a ehrliche yid, while the most bt's become through the Charedim. The fake stuff doesn't interest a chiloni if he wants to become religious.
What are you talking about? I'm not mizrachi and not defending Mizrachi but just walk into Footsteps or Hillel in TLV and see how many Satmars and Charedim left. WAY more then Mizrachim leaving!!
I say it loud. The chilonim, the kofrim bashem, the kofrim ba'ikar, the mechalelei Shabbos, the bo'alei nidos, the megalei arayos, the ochlei bsar hachazir. Yuck!! הלא משנאיך ה' אשנא!
No.Obviously we know that we are doing the right thing and are extremely confident and comfortable with our way of life. The feelings towards other Jews who eat cheeseburgers on yom Kippur are feelings of pity. Hate is required by halacha in certain unique situations.This cannot be compared with the rampant, seething hatred expressed by the Israeli media and public. It is normal to call charedim blood suckers and other derogatory remarks. The whole social engineering agenda is born out of the hatred to our way of life.
The lifestyle of a mizrachist these days is already leaving the fold. Just because part of them are accelerating in abandoning yiddishkeit, doesn't put the rest in a positive light. When all your "Rabbis" and "Gedolim" can be summed up by Drukman and co., it's not hard to see how much Judaism is left.
More Chasidim Leave torah Judiaism and end up hating torah and yidishkiet then Mizrachnkim \ Modern Orthodox this is a KNOWN fact.
Just because they are tinokos shenishbu doesn't make their behavior any less disgusting and rebellious against the almighty. Their share in hell might be a little less, but that's about it. They don't protect Eretz Yisrael. This is the kfira of כחי ועוצם ידי. See the gemara of עומדות היו רגלינו.
Do us a favor just SHUT UP already, Siyog Lachama Shtika, We us Chabad, Aish HAtorah, Breslov, Ohr Sameach and others will CONTINUE to be Meklarev these tinokos shenishbu as so many many have been chozer be tshiva Baruch hashem even though so many Satmars are LEAVING and hating Torah.
I am not Satmar and I love my fellow Jew like myself at the same time as I hate their anti-Torah lifestyle. I donate a lot to kiruv because of that. And none of these groups that you mentioned are mizrachi. The mizrachi would rather have richuk organizations to finish off whatever yiddishkeit they still have.
We never showed our contempt for them before this incitement by the secular and the secular lite started. We all know how everyone was talking about them until this.
