Author Topic: Negativity (Read 3713 times)

bubble347 · « **on:** March 10, 2014, 09:08:31 PM »

I thought everyone should put their selves in to Dan's shoes (that he probably got for 40% off or more!) and see how they would react to some of the horrible negativity that Dan has had to endure of late.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/41764#comment-570966 etc.

judahk88 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:13:08 PM »

Repost

shmebeble · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:14:17 PM »

Quote from: bubble347 on March 10, 2014, 09:08:31 PM

I thought everyone should put their selves in to Dan's shoes (that he probably got for 40% off or more!) and see how they would react to some of the horrible negativity that Dan has had to endure of late.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/41764#comment-570966 etc.

You need to add more options. Like: "Respond only once"

bubble347 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:14:46 PM »

Quote from: judahk88 on March 10, 2014, 09:13:08 PM

Repost

Where?

judahk88 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:16:09 PM »

Comments that leave me speechless

henche · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:27:52 PM »

Bring henche in.

CountValentine · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:49:05 PM »

Quote from: bubble347 on March 10, 2014, 09:08:31 PM

I thought everyone should put their selves in to Dan's shoes (that he probably got for 40% off or more!) and see how they would react to some of the horrible negativity that Dan has had to endure of late.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/41764#comment-570966 etc.

It comes with the territory. Why harp on one comment?

bubbles · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:50:37 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 10, 2014, 09:49:05 PM

It comes with the territory. Why harp on one comment?

+1

Why not harp on this one

CountValentine · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2014, 09:57:31 PM »

Quote from: bubbles on March 10, 2014, 09:50:37 PM

Why not harp on this one

Are you related to the OP?

bubbles · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2014, 10:09:18 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 10, 2014, 09:57:31 PM

Are you related to the OP?

Nope

But whoever this guy is he seems to be type that enjoys sparking theological debates whenever he can
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/41764#comment-571139

zale · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2014, 11:29:31 PM »

Belief in Gd is just that, belief.

Once a person establishes a strong belief, they see the world around them in a far more spiritual light. Every event can be seen as direct divine intervention.

When one has trouble believing and begins questioning their faith, they try as hard as possible to NOT see events as divine intervention and to always establish a story of coincidence, even when logic screams "this is a miracle!".

The writer of that comment is essentially stuck with the question we have had for centuries, and that is "why does Gd let bad things happen to good people?" To be more specific, why doesn't Gd save everyone who keeps Shabbos?

In the comment writer's version of how he wants Gd to behave (so to speak), Gd should not choose to save one person and kill 227 because that's just not fair. In other words, he wants Gd to behave in a certain way, and if that doesn't happen, there must be no Gd, or Gd must be "racist".

There is no answer for this person. If he at some point regains is faith he will feel differently about it, but until then, there are just no answers.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2014, 11:31:56 PM »

How many of us have been oiver on borrer etc? Its no wonder many shomrei Shabbos die.

bubble347 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2014, 11:42:26 PM »

Quote from: zale on March 10, 2014, 11:29:31 PM

Belief in Gd is just that, belief.

Once a person establishes a strong belief, they see the world around them in a far more spiritual light. Every event can be seen as direct divine intervention.

When one has trouble believing and begins questioning their faith, they try as hard as possible to NOT see events as divine intervention and to always establish a story of coincidence, even when logic screams "this is a miracle!".

The writer of that comment is essentially stuck with the question we have had for centuries, and that is "why does Gd let bad things happen to good people?" To be more specific, why doesn't Gd save everyone who keeps Shabbos?

In the comment writer's version of how he wants Gd to behave (so to speak), Gd should not choose to save one person and kill 227 because that's just not fair. In other words, he wants Gd to behave in a certain way, and if that doesn't happen, there must be no Gd, or Gd must be "racist".

There is no answer for this person. If he at some point regains is faith he will feel differently about it, but until then, there are just no answers.

I did not start this thread to debate that particular comment I just wanted to open peoples eyes to see things from Dan's perspective. Dan provides a great service to the community and has decided to share a fascinating story. He did not imply that he knows why anyone died or why anyone may have been saved, all he did was post a story that he was told exclusively. If anyone thinks that this person deserved to die too, or whine that life is not fair that is fine, but why misinterpret Dan's words and then blame him for it? I can only hope that he does not get discouraged from all the negativity and that he continue doing his great work.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2014, 11:47:17 PM »

The commenter is obviously an otd who the miracle pierced his heart like with a sword and can't live with it being true, because it means something then.

DH Data Recovery · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2014, 11:47:28 PM »

Great another Dan cheerleader thread....
He's not gonna get "discouraged" from a negative comment, this is a business. Nobody closes a business because of a few annoying customers

sky121 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2014, 11:54:05 PM »

Quote from: bubble347 on March 10, 2014, 09:08:31 PM

I thought everyone should put their selves in to Dan's shoes (that he probably got for 40% off or more!) and see how they would react to some of the horrible negativity that Dan has had to endure of late.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/41764#comment-570966 etc.

Honestly was waiting for such a comment. Look at it from an "outsiders" point of view. The Shabbos that guards the Jew... Seems like the others "never stood a chance". I am sure there are plenty of non Jews that read the article and felt that way to some degree and I would imagine Dan would even understand where they are coming from.

On a seperare note it was quite an amazing story.

DBK · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:03:00 AM »

Quote from: DH Data Recovery on March 10, 2014, 11:47:28 PM

Great another Dan cheerleader thread....
He's not gonna get "discouraged" from a negative comment, this is a business. Nobody closes a business because of a few annoying customers

Spiteful much?

DH Data Recovery · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:04:54 AM »

Yes that's me, very spitefull

bubble347 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:12:48 AM »

Quote from: DH Data Recovery on March 10, 2014, 11:47:28 PM

Great another Dan cheerleader thread....
He's not gonna get "discouraged" from a negative comment, this is a business. Nobody closes a business because of a few annoying customers

If it was just one comment I would agree with you, but he has taken quite a beating recently especially with the "open letter to Dan" thread. I know that one has to have thick skin to survive on the big wide world but everything has a limit.

sky121 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2014, 12:15:59 AM »

I agree with you. There is the business aspect and the emotional one.
We're all human beings at the end of the day. No one likes negativity.

Just curious. Do you think having a whole public discussion about all the negativity is helpful somehow?

Poll

How would you react if you ran a service like Dan and had the floors washed with you twice in one week?

Author Topic: Negativity (Read 3713 times)