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Original story:
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Flight370/

TV coverage:
http://www.thelistshow.tv/the-list/localist/cleveland-localist/around-cleveland-malaysia-mystery-has-cle-connection-snow-totals-inch-up-and-meat-madness

Op-eds:
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/whats-the-deal-dan-fights-erupt-over-hareidi-racism/
https://www.facebook.com/mendytv/posts/10153967326120341?stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/eliyahu.fink/posts/10102202420967555
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/the-lighthouse/.premium-1.579393
http://blog.rabbijason.com/2014/03/shabbat-saved-life-malaysia-airlines.html
http://jewishvoiceny.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6932:parshat-zachor--hidden-but-clearly-visible&catid=114:parsha&Itemid=297
http://www.frumsatire.net/2014/03/12/jewish-guy-missed-doomed-malaysia-flight/

Story coverage:
http://forward.com/articles/194280/jewish-traveler-cheats-death-by-skipping-malaysia/?
http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2014/3/12/jewish-passenger-cancels-trip-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-due-to-shabbat#.UyD_5oUXeJQ
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.579373
http://www.jpost.com/International/Jewish-passenger-saved-from-Malaysia-flight-by-travel-agent-who-wouldnt-book-him-on-Shabbat-345111
http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2014/3/12/jewish-passenger-cancels-trip-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-due-to-shabbat#.UyD_7IUXeJQ
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/shabbat-saved-a-jew-from-the-malaysia-airlines-death-flight/2014/03/11/
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/03/11/jewish-traveler-saved-from-lost-malaysia-flight-by-orthodox-agent-insisting-on-shabbat-observance/
http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=29417&alias=saved-from-missing-flight-370
http://crownheights.info/jewish-news/428415/decision-not-to-fly-on-shabbos-saves-mans-life/
http://www.aish.com/jw/s/Tragedy-Averted.html
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/219162/saved-by-shabbos-a-chilling-and-awe-inspiring-malaysia-air-flight-370-story.html
http://www.shmais.com/chabad-news/item/a-chilling-and-awe-inspiring-malaysia-air-flight-370-story


Hebrew Coverage

http://www.kikarhashabat.co.il/%D7%91%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%9C-%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%AA-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A6%D7%9C-%D7%9E%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%98%D7%95%D7%A1-%D7%94%D7%A0%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%9D.html

http://www.shturem.net/index.php?section=news&id=70373

http://www.bhol.co.il/article.aspx?id=65957
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #120 on: March 11, 2014, 04:41:53 PM »
Can't we appreciate that all of us at the end of the day are human beings with personal beliefs and feelings?

It's one thing to not have an issue with the story being posted, its another to not be able to appreciate where non religous, or non Jewish people may have an issue with it and not end the story with warm and fuzzy feelings.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #121 on: March 11, 2014, 04:42:13 PM »


What you call presumptuousness, I call confidence.

Does real truth have any value in your eyes? Or does it have the exact same value as anything perceived as true by anybody?

Again, your "confidence" runs ramshod into the sensitivities of others. Especially the victims' families.

I hate to say it, but I am compelled to move on (from you).
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #122 on: March 11, 2014, 04:43:02 PM »
Can't we appreciate that all of us at the end of the day are human beings with personal beliefs and feelings?

It's one thing to not have an issue with the story being posted, its another to not be able to appreciate where non religous, or non Jewish people may have an issue with it and not end the story with warm and fuzzy feelings.

Apparently not, unfortunately. Apparently we're alone.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #123 on: March 11, 2014, 04:47:35 PM »
Again, your "confidence" runs ramshod into the sensitivities of others. Especially the victims' families.

I hate to say it, but I am compelled to move on (from you).
What does runs ramshod mean? I have never heard such a phrase before- is this more of your fancy lawyer talk?

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #124 on: March 11, 2014, 04:48:29 PM »
Can't we appreciate that all of us at the end of the day are human beings with personal beliefs and feelings?

It's one thing to not have an issue with the story being posted, its another to not be able to appreciate where non religous, or non Jewish people may have an issue with it and not end the story with warm and fuzzy feelings.
Ok. I can accept that.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #125 on: March 11, 2014, 04:49:27 PM »
I really don't understand what you guys are going crazy over. The story in no way implies that those who were on the flight were there because they did not keep shabbos! In fact they were not ALLOWED to keep shabbos! This guy kept shabbos which caused him to be saved. Was it a reward? possibly and possibly not. Use it as a way to grow-don't prevent others from growing. Had he stayed to dedicate a center for the poor I would have said the same thing.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #126 on: March 11, 2014, 05:37:23 PM »
Can't we appreciate that all of us at the end of the day are human beings with personal beliefs and feelings?

It's one thing to not have an issue with the story being posted, its another to not be able to appreciate where non religous, or non Jewish people may have an issue with it and not end the story with warm and fuzzy feelings.
FTR, every non-jew who I've spoken to was highly appreciative of this story. The majority (and that means not all) of the haters are non-frum jews
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #127 on: March 11, 2014, 05:39:56 PM »
Bad timing. IMHO. But that's only towards the families involved and I don't think any of them are seeing this.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #128 on: March 11, 2014, 11:14:27 PM »
Did anyone see this firestorm coming?
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #129 on: March 11, 2014, 11:17:40 PM »
Did anyone see this firestorm coming?
I can't imagine not. This or the like happens every time someone says something to use a current event for self improvement.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #130 on: March 12, 2014, 11:13:26 AM »
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #131 on: March 12, 2014, 11:34:21 AM »
I can't imagine not. This or the like happens every time someone says something to use a current event for self improvement.
says a lot about our society

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2014, 01:15:52 PM »
AJK is just being AJK. Simple.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #133 on: March 12, 2014, 01:23:44 PM »
Do explain.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #134 on: March 12, 2014, 01:24:56 PM »
Did anyone see this firestorm coming?
Who would have imagined and I think its just a few people who are cooking up the issue


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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #135 on: March 12, 2014, 02:01:51 PM »
What people don't understand.
You can expect a kofer to be up in arms over it. They hate the truth that they know deep down.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #136 on: March 12, 2014, 07:23:50 PM »
Well, 25 minute interview in 25 seconds.
Should really avoid the media. The editing and splicing of what I was trying to say is ridiculous.

http://www.thelistshow.tv/the-list/localist/cleveland-localist/around-cleveland-malaysia-mystery-has-cle-connection-snow-totals-inch-up-and-meat-madness
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #137 on: March 12, 2014, 07:29:04 PM »
Well, 25 minute interview in 25 seconds.
Should really avoid the media. The editing and splicing of what I was trying to say is ridiculous.

http://www.thelistshow.tv/the-list/localist/cleveland-localist/around-cleveland-malaysia-mystery-has-cle-connection-snow-totals-inch-up-and-meat-madness
Typical
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Re: Dan on "abc"
« Reply #138 on: March 12, 2014, 07:35:07 PM »
Nice.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #139 on: March 12, 2014, 07:35:11 PM »
Just got a text that Dan was interviewed on Kol Mavaser about this story.