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Original story:
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Flight370/

TV coverage:
http://www.thelistshow.tv/the-list/localist/cleveland-localist/around-cleveland-malaysia-mystery-has-cle-connection-snow-totals-inch-up-and-meat-madness

Op-eds:
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/whats-the-deal-dan-fights-erupt-over-hareidi-racism/
https://www.facebook.com/mendytv/posts/10153967326120341?stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/eliyahu.fink/posts/10102202420967555
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/the-lighthouse/.premium-1.579393
http://blog.rabbijason.com/2014/03/shabbat-saved-life-malaysia-airlines.html
http://jewishvoiceny.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6932:parshat-zachor--hidden-but-clearly-visible&catid=114:parsha&Itemid=297
http://www.frumsatire.net/2014/03/12/jewish-guy-missed-doomed-malaysia-flight/

Story coverage:
http://forward.com/articles/194280/jewish-traveler-cheats-death-by-skipping-malaysia/?
http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2014/3/12/jewish-passenger-cancels-trip-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-due-to-shabbat#.UyD_5oUXeJQ
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.579373
http://www.jpost.com/International/Jewish-passenger-saved-from-Malaysia-flight-by-travel-agent-who-wouldnt-book-him-on-Shabbat-345111
http://www.jns.org/news-briefs/2014/3/12/jewish-passenger-cancels-trip-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-due-to-shabbat#.UyD_7IUXeJQ
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/shabbat-saved-a-jew-from-the-malaysia-airlines-death-flight/2014/03/11/
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/03/11/jewish-traveler-saved-from-lost-malaysia-flight-by-orthodox-agent-insisting-on-shabbat-observance/
http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=29417&alias=saved-from-missing-flight-370
http://crownheights.info/jewish-news/428415/decision-not-to-fly-on-shabbos-saves-mans-life/
http://www.aish.com/jw/s/Tragedy-Averted.html
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/219162/saved-by-shabbos-a-chilling-and-awe-inspiring-malaysia-air-flight-370-story.html
http://www.shmais.com/chabad-news/item/a-chilling-and-awe-inspiring-malaysia-air-flight-370-story


Hebrew Coverage

http://www.kikarhashabat.co.il/%D7%91%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%9C-%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%AA-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A6%D7%9C-%D7%9E%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%98%D7%95%D7%A1-%D7%94%D7%A0%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%9D.html

http://www.shturem.net/index.php?section=news&id=70373

http://www.bhol.co.il/article.aspx?id=65957
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #280 on: March 13, 2014, 04:15:38 PM »
Wonderful job, JJ.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #281 on: March 13, 2014, 04:22:51 PM »
Here are some excerpts from your article in quotations and my replies below. The main point is that the Author didn’t make the implications you say.....
He told me now that he never said it... lol

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #282 on: March 13, 2014, 04:34:01 PM »
Nice job, Chaikel.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #283 on: March 13, 2014, 04:43:44 PM »
How about a reform Rabbi can we call them idiots or that's also against your warped mind?

Wait, so now someone who defends a Rabbi suddenly has a "warped mind"?! Are we resorting to schoolyard name-calling now?! Stay on topic, little one. It's okay to have an argument, as long as it's an adult conversation. The second you abandon logical argument and resort to attacking someone personally, you've instantly lost the fight, on moral grounds. Period.

Stick to arguing about the facts, and don't descend to the level of a personal attack, because believe me, that is a can of worms you do NOT want to open.

And besides, AJK is a lawyer... do you really want to piss him off? >:D

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #284 on: March 13, 2014, 04:49:38 PM »
Wait, so now someone who defends a Rabbi suddenly has a "warped mind"?! Are we resorting to schoolyard name-calling now?! Stay on topic, little one. It's okay to have an argument, as long as it's an adult conversation. The second you abandon logical argument and resort to attacking someone personally, you've instantly lost the fight, on moral grounds. Period.

Stick to arguing about the facts, and don't descend to the level of a personal attack, because believe me, that is a can of worms you do NOT want to open.


"Rabbis" for the Modox religion are free to be mocked and disparaged.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #285 on: March 13, 2014, 04:51:28 PM »
"Rabbis" for the Modox religion are free to be mocked and disparaged.
C'mon, that's ridiculous.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #286 on: March 13, 2014, 04:53:59 PM »
"Rabbis" for the Modox religion are free to be mocked and disparaged.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #287 on: March 13, 2014, 04:54:54 PM »
"Rabbis" for the Modox religion are free to be mocked and disparaged.

I actually laughed.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #288 on: March 13, 2014, 04:57:14 PM »
C'mon, that's ridiculous.

Well, obviously not in my opinion and the opinions of most heimishe gedolim who are attacking and disparaging them.
They have twisted the old testament beyond recognition and created a new religion.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #289 on: March 13, 2014, 05:01:09 PM »
Well, obviously not in my opinion and the opinions of most heimishe gedolim who are attacking and disparaging them.
They have twisted the old testament beyond recognition and created a new religion.

You probably vigorously applauded when another heimishe gadol said that "Chabad is the closest religion to Judaism"

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #290 on: March 13, 2014, 05:04:58 PM »
"Rabbis" for the Modox religion are free to be mocked and disparaged.
Well, obviously not in my opinion and the opinions of most heimishe gedolim who are attacking and disparaging them.
They have twisted the old testament beyond recognition and created a new religion.

Careful... don't piss me off by spewing venomous, baseless hate, or you'll be next. 8)

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #291 on: March 13, 2014, 05:05:15 PM »
Wonderful job, JJ.
Thanks left him speechless for at least 30 minutes. lol.

I never heard of him before this and he may be a good guy, I'm just calling it how I see it, and I hope he sees my points and takes them into consideration. It's hard when so many people are pulling one way to see the other side, instead of just fighting back. True for me I know.

You probably vigorously applauded when another heimishe gadol said that "Chabad is the closest religion to Judaism"

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #292 on: March 13, 2014, 05:05:35 PM »
Well, obviously not in my opinion and the opinions of most heimishe gedolim who are attacking and disparaging them.
They have twisted the old testament beyond recognition and created a new religion.

Honestly, any heimishe "gedolim" who are attacking and disparaging any other religious Jews are not worthy of the title.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #293 on: March 13, 2014, 05:07:11 PM »
Thanks left him speechless for at least 30 minutes. lol.

I never heard of him before this and he may be a good guy, I'm just calling it how I see it, and I hope he sees my points and takes them into consideration. It's hard when so many people are pulling one way to see the other side, instead of just fighting back. True for me I know.
 This is amazing for a fast day.

Give it to me straight: we're both biased, but do you see Fink's point at all?  Even if you disagree?

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #294 on: March 13, 2014, 05:09:29 PM »
You probably vigorously applauded when another heimishe gadol said that "Chabad is the closest religion to Judaism"

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #295 on: March 13, 2014, 05:10:02 PM »
Give it to me straight: we're both biased, but do you see Fink's point at all?  Even if you disagree?
If he is encouraging people to avoid a deduction that G-d is petty and does things based on how a person acts at the moment than I see his point. It is similar to condemning people that say Katrina happened because of the Gays etc. He happens to be talking about the positive so it strikes a stronger nerve within the orthodox community.

Much of what he said as I point out I clearly don't agree with. His inflammatory presentation is definitely part of the problem.
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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #296 on: March 13, 2014, 05:11:02 PM »
If he is encouraging people to avoid a deduction that G-d is petty and does things based on how a person acts at the moment than I see his point. It is similar to condemning people that say Katrina happened because of the Gays etc. He happens to be talking about the positive so it strikes a stronger nerve within the orthodox community.

Much of what he said as I point out I clearly don't agree with. His inflammatory presentation is definitely part of the problem.

Fair enough.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #297 on: March 13, 2014, 05:12:42 PM »
It is absolutely fascinating that a beautiful story has caused so much controversy.

There are so many negative people out there!

Wow!

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #298 on: March 13, 2014, 05:14:25 PM »
It is absolutely fascinating that a beautiful story has caused so much controversy.

There are so many negative people out there!

Wow!

It's pretty simple as I think you posted yesterday.
There are nebech yidden who don't want to believe in hashgacha pratis and it touched them where it hurts and they are trying to fight back to get the story off their hearts.

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Re: MH370 Shabbos Story Discussion
« Reply #299 on: March 13, 2014, 05:14:44 PM »
I love it. If someone doesn't agree with your world view, they're negative.

And more importantly, they're simply wrong.

To me that's egocentricity and hubris.
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