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Tentative Hilchos Mishloach Manos:

1)Two different items of any brocha (no source for this)

2)Water or seltzer don't count as an item
« Last edited by MarkS on March 13, 2014, 11:53:43 PM »

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shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« on: March 13, 2014, 09:44:02 PM »
True or false that you need 2 brachos

please include source

thanks

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 09:44:44 PM »
No source, but we were always told false.  2 minim.

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 09:44:49 PM »
always heard false but not sure from where...

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 09:45:03 PM »
It's a Minhag for so long it's equivalent to Din.

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 09:45:56 PM »
It's a Minhag for so long it's equivalent to Din.
WHATTTT????? Who are you, R chaim kanievsky???

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 09:46:43 PM »

WHATTTT????? Who are you, R chaim kanievsky???

Yes. I recently discovered the internet. Pleased to meet you.

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 09:47:51 PM »
Yes. I recently discovered the internet. Pleased to meet you.
go learn,...

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 09:48:48 PM »
Maybe you should change your name to Menachem614 in honor of your newfound mitzvos...

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 09:49:25 PM »

Maybe you should change your name to Menachem614 in honor of your newfound mitzvos...

Good one.

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 09:51:17 PM »
Maybe you should change your name to Menachem614 in honor of your newfound mitzvos...
Or chaim613 assuming you really are R' Chaim

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 09:52:09 PM »
chaim614 you mean ;D

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 09:53:11 PM »
IIRC the gemara records someone giving two portions of (different) meat. Discussion closed?

See link above. Beat you to it :)

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 09:53:15 PM »
IIRC the gemara records someone giving two portions of (different) meat. Discussion closed?
yes! the mechaber and rambam bring it down according to someone watching this thread over my shoulder and smiling... ::)

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2014, 09:54:41 PM »
also in another vein, what about drinks like soda, tea, or even bottled water? From the above link it seems like wine is good but...

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2014, 09:56:03 PM »
MB says drink is fine, not water or seltzer

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 09:59:16 PM »
MB says drink is fine, not water or seltzer

Since you brought it up... well sort of...

You can't make a brocha on water if you're not thirsty because water has no taste. The only hana'ah is from the quenching of thirst.

Well...what about seltzer? I remember in yeshiva, we had a big fight about this.

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2014, 10:01:26 PM »
Since you brought it up... well sort of...

You can't make a brocha on water if you're not thirsty because water has no taste. The only hana'ah is from the quenching of thirst.

Well...what about seltzer? I remember in yeshiva, we had a big fight about this.
wait so if im just sipping water because its there (like those bottles in first class delta ;D) i shouldnt make a brocha?

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Re: shaloch manos 2 brachos????
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 10:03:28 PM »
Since you brought it up... well sort of...

You can't make a brocha on water if you're not thirsty because water has no taste. The only hana'ah is from the quenching of thirst.

Well...what about seltzer? I remember in yeshiva, we had a big fight about this.
Good one, let's fight! What side you taking? ;)