Author Topic: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)  (Read 6605 times)

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2014, 12:17:34 PM »
The tone is harsh and argumentative. Is that the best way to get what you want?

Usually no...but do you really think a friendly letter will get any results. However, I will try something more "friendly". I called the press department and brought it to their attention.

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2014, 12:22:36 PM »
Usually no...but do you really think a friendly letter will get any results. However, I will try something more "friendly". I called the press department and brought it to their attention.
I think that has a higher chance of success.
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2014, 01:46:22 PM »
A friendly email will be answered with a friendly apology... You know this guys.. They will be sooo sorry but thats about it.
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2014, 03:06:33 PM »
A friendly email will be answered with a friendly apology... You know this guys.. They will be sooo sorry but thats about it.


Just got a call back from United PR Dept. They apologized, they understand my concern...blah...blah...blah...and said the only further feedback I will have is if I notice a change in policy. (I should keep checking the websites..seriously ???)

I think its time for the letter to be sent..Also maybe worth dealing with Twitter?

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2014, 03:26:12 PM »
Go for it!
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 04:22:31 PM »
Go for it!

Their response as expected:

Thank you for contacting United Airlines.

I regret that you are disappointed with our special meals being
discontinued for travel on or after May 01, 2014,  in our United First
to/ from Newark to Los Angeles and Newark to San Francisco.  It is never
our intent to inconvenience our passengers, and I am very sorry if your
expectations were not met. We appreciate the time you took to share your
thoughts with us, and your giving us the opportunity to apologize for
any inconvenience.

I recognize that this may not be the answer that you had been hoping
for, but your feedback is very important and valued, so we hope you will
continue to fly with us.

For more information on our meal and beverage services, please visit
www.united.com.

We appreciate your patience and understanding and look forward to
serving your travel needs again in the near future. 

Regards,

Cheryl Sanjose
United Airlines

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 04:46:00 PM »
Do we give them any points for promptness?  Or only a Bronx cheer for insensitivity? 
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 06:57:40 PM »
Or only a Bronx cheer for insensitivity?
Not sure why cancelling a service that resulted in more failures-complaints-compensation than meals is considered insensitive.
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2014, 12:19:21 PM »
I'm flying EWR to SAN soon in United First class.  Any idea if I will get compensation for a post flight complaint on the lack of kosher food?

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2014, 12:32:20 PM »
I'm flying EWR to SAN soon in United First class.  Any idea if I will get compensation for a post flight complaint on the lack of kosher food?
Why in the world should you get comp for that?
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2014, 02:46:20 PM »
Why in the world should you get comp for that?
It seems its the new trend around here.

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2014, 04:20:12 PM »
Just about to email United the following: (any comments before I send?)

As a frequent flyer who keeps Kosher, I was appalled to learn that these special meals will be discontinued in first class cabins on almost all the of United flights. I think that it is a very good way to spit in the face of your premium customers. When traveling in many areas of the United States it can be difficult to purchase kosher food before a flight and therefore having that meal is an important factor in enjoying our travel. This is a clear disgrace as United chooses to discriminate against its customers with special needs, and is congruent with United's race to the bottom in the US airline industry. I certainly hope that United reevaluates this cost cutting measure immediately. The mainstream media will have a hey day publicizing this new policy. If United feels they can save money by doing this, they may as well stop all meals in first class, but to do some thing like this is unacceptable.
I would like a thorough explanation about this decision.

 

Any mainstream media reports about this? Or does United have the media in their pockets?
Its now May 2 and IIRC no one in the media is taking about it.
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2014, 04:44:32 PM »
Any mainstream media reports about this? Or does United have the media in their pockets?
Its now May 2 and IIRC no one in the media is taking about it.

Why would the media care?
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2014, 05:01:24 PM »
Especially when the airlines advertises and pays them the airlines even pay other bloggers like TPG. We are  that we have DDF.
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Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2014, 05:11:42 PM »
Especially when the airlines advertises and pays them the airlines even pay other bloggers like TPG. We are  that we have DDF.
Why should they care
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2015, 03:21:22 PM »
I know its been a while since this has been revisited.  I have a flight ewr-sfo in June, and when I spoke to a United agent, I asked that she do whatever she could to get me a kosher meal.  She claims she notated my account, obviously no guarantee but if they have a meal available it will be loaded.
Dont have too high hopes on this (and will bring along food in case) but has anyone ever had a similar experience where a flight doesnt officially offer a kosher meal but a request got it added for the individual flight?

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2015, 03:23:19 PM »
About a 1% chance of getting the meal.
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2015, 03:24:32 PM »
About a 1% chance of getting the meal.
You are being very optimistic IMO.
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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2015, 04:12:50 PM »
About a 1% chance of getting the meal.
True but he can then kvetch for 10k points.

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Re: No more KSML on UA out of EWR to SFO/LAX (in F)
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2015, 04:15:56 PM »
True but he can then kvetch for 10k points.
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