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Filters for PC:
Call TAG 718-225-5824 (718-Call-TAG)
www.usanativ.com           8-12/mo 95-140/yr per 2 devices     
www.techloq.com (Windows)            9.49/mo 99.49/yr per device
www.NetFree.link (Windows)            free
www.netsafepro.com           10-12/mo per device 9-10/mo additional
www.netsparkmobile.com/ (Android and Windows)            9.50/mo 89/yr per device
www.covenanteyes.com/services/internet-filtering / http://webchaver.org/filtering.php           15.99/mo unlimited devices scree captures
www.netnanny.com (Android, iOS, PC, Mac)           40/yr 55/yr per device
https://truple.io (Android, Windows, Mac, Linux, Chromebook [iOS coming soon]) - randomly captures and shares screenshots with accountability partner.                                    5-16/mo 50-160/yr (ranging from 1-unlimited devices)

http://www.livigent.com
==built on Livigent==
www.meshimer.com                      8-15/mo per device
www.geder.org
www.gentechsolution.com                   39/qtr per device

More info see https://venishmartem.com/

Israel
https://www.tagisrael.org/
http://www.etrog.net.il/
http://www.enativ.com/
http://netfree.link/
http://www.rimon.net.il/
http://shomer.shoresh.org.il/

For Windows Phone
www.safekiddo.com/en_us/

For Android
https://truple.io/androidfilter.html (Free android filter)

For iPhone/iPad/iOs
Check out their quite easy and powerful content restrictions.
Suggestion: Have someone else have the password (or half and half with a spouse) and do the following:
Lock installing apps + remove browser + add apps you need (possible rules: no games, no sports, no entertainment, etc.).
[Occasionally an app will have a built in browser/or need to access a certain website - just go back in to settings (with password) and add that website].
There is time restrictions and more features too.
(May not be enough for teenagers - consult your own advisers - this solution sure beats doing nothing and there is no excuse)

DNS
https://www.opendns.com/ (can be used in routers or directly in PC)
https://cleanbrowsing.org

Pricing info may not be accurate and is only on full filters (not email only), feel free to correct, and does not include installation costs. I am working on a comprehensive comparison list
here it is
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2010 on: March 28, 2019, 02:02:40 PM »
I used gentek up until around the year ago and they DID black out skin color
Its done by toggling a yes/no option, guess it varies by location.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2011 on: March 28, 2019, 02:02:48 PM »
Are Livigent based filters considered to be the gold standard (in terms of non-bypassability and/or in terms of identifying inappropriate content) among internet filters for the frum community?
Yes

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2012 on: March 28, 2019, 05:23:36 PM »
Gentech is considered the Gold standard for windows MACOS, Android and IOS.
Techloq is a UK company that provides filtering for windows and routers.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2013 on: March 29, 2019, 12:17:27 AM »
NativUSA is very good, perhaps better than Gentech, but only available for computers, not mobile devices.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2014 on: March 29, 2019, 08:46:49 AM »
Interesting. They didnít offer me that option, even when I requested it.
I think it depends if a personal device or a business device. But not sure how to decide what is what.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2015 on: March 29, 2019, 09:10:06 AM »
Meshimer uses a VPN, demonstrated by that their IP address shows up to anywhere the user visits. Do all the Livigent based filters use a VPN? Does routing all your internet traffic via their VPN slow down your effective internet speed? Does their using a VPN impede your ability to use other applications or business connections that require their own VPN?

Does Livigent offer filtering services directly without going through third-parties such as Meshimer, Geder and Gentech?

How is Livigent a better filter than everyone else? Are there no common methods to bypass it, that some other filters (i.e. K9 and OpenDNS) suffer from? Are Livigent website categorizations more accurate than other providers?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2016 on: March 29, 2019, 09:16:18 AM »
Meshimer uses a VPN, demonstrated by that their IP address shows up to anywhere the user visits. Do all the Livigent based filters use a VPN? Does routing all your internet traffic via their VPN slow down your effective internet speed?

Does Livigent offer filtering services directly without going through third-parties such as Meshimer, Geder and Gentech?

How is Livigent a better filter than everyone else? Are there no common methods to bypass it, that some other filters (i.e. K9 and OpenDNS) suffer from?
Livigent offers filtering service directly (http://www.livigent.com/buy/p-2/) but not for end-users, if you have a big business and want to manage the whole filter on your own they would offer it.

Livigent is better first because it is the most established one and proven to work. There is no extremely simple way to bypass it (although it is of course technically possible), it is very deep in the system (and also it has a much smaller user-base than K9 and OpenDNS, so there is not that much sharing of bypasses even if someone does find one.)

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2017 on: March 29, 2019, 09:45:32 AM »
Livigent is better first because it is the most established one and proven to work. There is no extremely simple way to bypass it (although it is of course technically possible), it is very deep in the system (and also it has a much smaller user-base than K9 and OpenDNS, so there is not that much sharing of bypasses even if someone does find one.)
Your point about it being "deeper in the system", and as such more difficult to circumvent, applies to Livigent's smartphone filter or to their PC filter?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2018 on: March 29, 2019, 11:26:02 AM »
Your point about it being "deeper in the system", and as such more difficult to circumvent, applies to Livigent's smartphone filter or to their PC filter?
Both.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2019 on: March 29, 2019, 11:29:47 AM »
Livigent offers filtering service directly (http://www.livigent.com/buy/p-2/) but not for end-users, if you have a big business and want to manage the whole filter on your own they would offer it.

Livigent is better first because it is the most established one and proven to work. There is no extremely simple way to bypass it (although it is of course technically possible), it is very deep in the system (and also it has a much smaller user-base than K9 and OpenDNS, so there is not that much sharing of bypasses even if someone does find one.)

Also because they were filtering when gentech and meshimer were still in diapers
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2020 on: March 29, 2019, 03:20:18 PM »
Also because they were filtering when gentech and meshimer were still in diapers
Gentech and Meshimer both use Livigent.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2021 on: March 30, 2019, 03:30:09 PM »
NativUSA is very good, perhaps better than Gentech, but only available for computers, not mobile devices.
Their filter is a total joke.  You can't imagine how easy it is to bypass..
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2022 on: March 31, 2019, 08:34:52 AM »
Does TAG offer its own filter(s), and if so which, or does it only offer recommendations for filters from others?

Aside from the monthly recurring cost of filtering, does TAG charge for its services or are they volunteer?
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2023 on: March 31, 2019, 09:02:46 AM »
Does TAG offer its own filter(s), and if so which, or does it only offer recommendations for filters from others?

Aside from the monthly recurring cost of filtering, does TAG charge for its services or are they volunteer?
Certain offices charge a setup fee.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2024 on: March 31, 2019, 09:31:53 AM »
Certain offices charge a setup fee.

Which offices do not charge? Can people use a TAG office remotely (i.e. remote login without having to visit the office)?