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Filters for PC:
Call TAG 718-225-5824 (718-Call-TAG)
www.usanativ.com           8-12/mo 95-140/yr per 2 devices     
www.techloq.com (Windows)            9.49/mo 99.49/yr per device
www.NetFree.link (Windows)            free
www.netsafepro.com           10-12/mo per device 9-10/mo additional
www.netsparkmobile.com/ (Android and Windows)            9.50/mo 89/yr per device
www.covenanteyes.com/services/internet-filtering / http://webchaver.org/filtering.php           15.99/mo unlimited devices scree captures
www.netnanny.com (Android, iOS, PC, Mac)           40/yr 55/yr per device
https://truple.io (Android, Windows, Mac, Linux, Chromebook [iOS coming soon]) - randomly captures and shares screenshots with accountability partner.                                    5-16/mo 50-160/yr (ranging from 1-unlimited devices)

http://www.livigent.com
==built on Livigent==
www.meshimer.com                      8-15/mo per device
www.geder.org
www.gentechsolution.com                   39/qtr per device

More info see https://venishmartem.com/

Israel
https://www.tagisrael.org/
http://www.etrog.net.il/
http://www.enativ.com/
http://netfree.link/
http://www.rimon.net.il/
http://shomer.shoresh.org.il/

For Windows Phone
www.safekiddo.com/en_us/

For Android
https://truple.io/androidfilter.html (Free android filter)

For iPhone/iPad/iOs
Check out their quite easy and powerful content restrictions.
Suggestion: Have someone else have the password (or half and half with a spouse) and do the following:
Lock installing apps + remove browser + add apps you need (possible rules: no games, no sports, no entertainment, etc.).
[Occasionally an app will have a built in browser/or need to access a certain website - just go back in to settings (with password) and add that website].
There is time restrictions and more features too.
(May not be enough for teenagers - consult your own advisers - this solution sure beats doing nothing and there is no excuse)

DNS
https://www.opendns.com/ (can be used in routers or directly in PC)
https://cleanbrowsing.org

Pricing info may not be accurate and is only on full filters (not email only), feel free to correct, and does not include installation costs. I am working on a comprehensive comparison list
here it is
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2060 on: April 30, 2019, 10:40:55 AM »
I'm confused as to why they claim that norton antivirus is the solution to it  ??? ???

"The Norton Solution most like K9 Web Protection is Norton Antivirus Plus."
Most like as in Nothing Alike  :-[ >:( :'(

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2061 on: April 30, 2019, 10:42:16 AM »
The 3 seconds it takes to change your dns and poof, you're no longer using opendns
OpenDNS on a router with port 53 redirected to the router, and on a PC for a non-admin user, is not very bad. But certainly not a strong solution.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2062 on: April 30, 2019, 11:50:39 AM »
OpenDNS on a router with port 53 redirected to the router, and on a PC for a non-admin user, is not very bad. But certainly not a strong solution.

How do you redirect port 53 to the router? What does that accomplish?

Why isn't this a strong solution (or is less strong than K9)?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2063 on: April 30, 2019, 12:29:22 PM »
How do you redirect port 53 to the router? What does that accomplish?

Why isn't this a strong solution (or is less strong than K9)?
See upthread quote linked here:


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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2064 on: April 30, 2019, 02:25:28 PM »
you are berating other good solutions
that is incorrect. i am not berating anybody, i'm just pointing out pointing out serious flaws in their system. with all due respect to these filters and for their investment and development, they have very serious flaws which must be addressed (such as images and some more...)
Such a long post promoting a service coming from a first-time poster, and then claiming that you are just a happy user is somewhat ridiculous.
you can claim whatever you want about any user who writes positive or negative according to your liking. i am not looking to busy myself with following forums and therefore i haven't joined every forum but i see there is a want for information which isn't being addressed so i am trying to fill in. i have a strong passion for NetFree being with them since the very beginning and helping it grow. i have volunteered in development, translation and even phone support and in any way i am able because i want to help the klal. i haven't ever received anything in return. just to be clear, there are HUNDREDS of people just like me in NetFree, the users (al pi rov) are very passionate about NetFree and want to do all they can to help it. you can see this on all the israeli forums (try searching "נטפרי" on [url link=https://www.prog.co.il/]פרוג[/url])

if you are not convinced just take a look at my accounts on [url link=http://forum.netfree.link/]NetFree Forum[/url], [url link=http://wiki.netfree.link/wiki/Home_page]NetFree Wiki[/url] or [url link=https://www.prog.co.il/]Prog[/url]. what i do there is assist other users as a fellow user.

Besides the point that you do not address, that from what I can see this doesn't have any real deep-system client that prevents using the internet completely unfiltered. In which case - I'm not sure it is the case, but judging from the guides they have - it is a total joke for anyone (which is everyone) that has admin access to the PC or has a tiny bit of tech knowledge!
you are correct. i did not address every part of NetFree but if you are asking i'll introduce you to [url link=https://netfree.link/wiki/WiFree_Software]WiFree[/url] from NetFree.

Wifree is a software installed on the PC (android in development too) which blocks internet access whenever you are not connected to NetFree. read more here https://netfree.link/wiki/WiFree_Software

i hope this addresses all of your issues.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2065 on: May 03, 2019, 04:07:24 AM »
I thought there hasn't been any updates since 2013, when Symantec bought K9 and announced it was no longer supported. I'm not sure if classifications have been updated in years already.

Can K9 still be freshly installed with an already obtained license?

You need to download the install file from a 3rd party as Symantec is not giving it out anymore, try Download Cnet

Any idea how to get a license if Symantec is not giving any out? I assume there is a way.
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2066 on: May 03, 2019, 05:00:45 AM »
Most like as in Nothing Alike  :-[ >:( :'(

Norton Family seems to have filtering and ability to block apps. Anyone here use it successfully?
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2067 on: May 03, 2019, 10:44:15 AM »
I tried installing opendns on a optimum sage-com router (lakewood), got an error message when i tried to save the setting change... anyone have experience with this?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2068 on: May 03, 2019, 10:56:14 AM »
I tried installing opendns on a optimum sage-com router (lakewood), got an error message when i tried to save the setting change... anyone have experience with this?
Yes. The only way to update the DNS on an optimum router is to call/chat optimum. They will ask for your CMAC (located on a sticker on the bottom of your modem). They don't immediately update the DNS servers, it takes them a few days. Convoluted process but it's the only way to do it, as they don't allow changing dns through the router interface anymore.

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2069 on: May 03, 2019, 12:03:14 PM »
Thanks, do you know if they'll also set up port 53?

Also is there anything to configure in the modem itself ?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2070 on: May 03, 2019, 01:39:46 PM »
Thanks, do you know if they'll also set up port 53?
Do you mean redirecting all traffic on port 53? No


Also is there anything to configure in the modem itself ?
No

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2071 on: May 06, 2019, 06:45:37 PM »
Sounds like the answer I'm looking for.

Does it slow down the phone at all?
Creator of Truple here.  99% of the time the app is literally doing nothing.  It does a small amount of processing whenever a screenshot is taken, but that's it.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

Disclaimer: I am very affiliated with Truple, and very bias... :D

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2072 on: May 19, 2019, 03:32:31 AM »
Creator of Truple here.  99% of the time the app is literally doing nothing.  It does a small amount of processing whenever a screenshot is taken, but that's it.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

Disclaimer: I am very affiliated with Truple, and very bias... :D
I recently moved over to truple and it is exactly what I need. Doesn't slow down my phone at all and doesn't get in the way at all!

Thanks for a great app

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2073 on: May 20, 2019, 04:00:25 AM »
although livigent does a pretty good job identifying inappropriate content there is still unfortunately lots of things that slip by (especially images - their image filter is a total joke. if it is turned on you wont find a clean picture of an apple (i guess they think apples are inappropriate  ::) ) but you will still see other images that you don't want to see and with it off it wont get in your way but essentially you don't have a filter.

i prefer NetFree (TAG supports it in some offices and you can get it through e-mail info@netfree.link or over the phone 562-332-6000)
the only setback is that as of now it only works via VPN (outside Israel where they have several ISP internet providers who provide the service)

NetFree takes a unique approach to the image problem: they check each individual image MANUALLY. although it sounds a bit primitive they have successfully created an extremely efficient system in which image checking usually takes approximately 1-5 seconds. the images are reviewed by non-Jewish staff in places the likes of India, Bangladesh and several other countries around the world to cover 24 hrs 6 days a week.

to date NetFree has reviewed 478,969,382 images.

sites in NetFree are also checked manually. after it is checked and determined to be kosher, it no longer has to be checked again for any user. they also have a text robot to remove offensive language and a customized filter for shopping sites.

i have been using it since its founding around 5 years ago and i still recommend it to all. it is non profit and is just here to help the klal and to make a 100% solution available to all.

In Israel it costs 15 NIS per month (approx. $4\mo) in the US it is 30 NIS (approx. $8\mo) [this is due to the Hi-Speed VPN server costs]

Disclaimer: i do not work for NetFree nor have i received any benefit from them (other than their great product - at full cost like any costumer) i do volunteer for NetFree and i do not and have not received any benefit from NetFree.

More about NetFree
NetFree Homepage
attached: NetFree staff reviewing images (not an illustration) source: http://wiki.netfree.link/images/1/19/%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A7%D7%98.pdf

please reply with any questions and i will try to address IYH.


That's sounds cool! Does this work for Android or Windows?
Do they have a whitelist option?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2074 on: May 20, 2019, 08:44:42 AM »
although livigent does a pretty good job identifying inappropriate content there is still unfortunately lots of things that slip by (especially images - their image filter is a total joke. if it is turned on you wont find a clean picture of an apple (i guess they think apples are inappropriate  ::) ) but you will still see other images that you don't want to see and with it off it wont get in your way but essentially you don't have a filter.

i prefer NetFree (TAG supports it in some offices and you can get it through e-mail info@netfree.link or over the phone 562-332-6000)
the only setback is that as of now it only works via VPN (outside Israel where they have several ISP internet providers who provide the service)

NetFree takes a unique approach to the image problem: they check each individual image MANUALLY. although it sounds a bit primitive they have successfully created an extremely efficient system in which image checking usually takes approximately 1-5 seconds. the images are reviewed by non-Jewish staff in places the likes of India, Bangladesh and several other countries around the world to cover 24 hrs 6 days a week.

to date NetFree has reviewed 478,969,382 images.

sites in NetFree are also checked manually. after it is checked and determined to be kosher, it no longer has to be checked again for any user. they also have a text robot to remove offensive language and a customized filter for shopping sites.

i have been using it since its founding around 5 years ago and i still recommend it to all. it is non profit and is just here to help the klal and to make a 100% solution available to all.

In Israel it costs 15 NIS per month (approx. $4\mo) in the US it is 30 NIS (approx. $8\mo) [this is due to the Hi-Speed VPN server costs]

Disclaimer: i do not work for NetFree nor have i received any benefit from them (other than their great product - at full cost like any costumer) i do volunteer for NetFree and i do not and have not received any benefit from NetFree.

More about NetFree
NetFree Homepage
attached: NetFree staff reviewing images (not an illustration) source: http://wiki.netfree.link/images/1/19/%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A7%D7%98.pdf

please reply with any questions and i will try to address IYH.
I have a few devices that need filtering, is it going to be that price per device? Or there's way to have a set price for all devices?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2075 on: May 20, 2019, 09:33:16 AM »
That's sounds cool! Does this work for Android or Windows?
the WiFree software is only for Windows (although a BETA version for android is out though not for the general public)
Do they have a whitelist option?
The filter is very flexible and easy to customize. NetFree opens any site that is kosher (or can be made kosher with filtering including custom filtering solutions for specific sites) additionally users can customize the default setting (whitelist or blacklist) and what sites or categories they want opened or closed based on times and days or even "for the next half hour" etc.. there is also the option in which your Kehilla can decide what is open or closed [they can let you ADD to their settings as well]
see more here: https://netfree.link/wiki/Personal_Filter_Settings
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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2076 on: May 20, 2019, 09:36:51 AM »
I have a few devices that need filtering, is it going to be that price per device? Or there's way to have a set price for all devices?
In Israel it is 15NIS for the entire network (as many computers you put on the filtered network) [the filter is at the ISP]
out of Israel it is VPN based so if you have a VPN capable router then it can be on the entire network for 30NIS (price for the USA and UK VPN server option, 20NIS for the IL, FR and AR servers) otherwise it has to be placed on each computer individually

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2077 on: May 20, 2019, 09:45:24 AM »
In Israel it is 15NIS for the entire network (as many computers you put on the filtered network) [the filter is at the ISP]
out of Israel it is VPN based so if you have a VPN capable router then it can be on the entire network for 30NIS (price for the USA and UK VPN server option, 20NIS for the IL, FR and AR servers) otherwise it has to be placed on each computer individually
Interesting. That makes me wonder ... If I only have service on one of the devices (and get that filtered) and always tether to the other devices,  would those other devices automatically be filtered? (Because the data that's being sent is already 'filtered')

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2078 on: May 20, 2019, 11:58:10 AM »
In Israel it is 15NIS for the entire network (as many computers you put on the filtered network) [the filter is at the ISP]
out of Israel it is VPN based so if you have a VPN capable router then it can be on the entire network for 30NIS (price for the USA and UK VPN server option, 20NIS for the IL, FR and AR servers) otherwise it has to be placed on each computer individually
If it's VPN based, does it already work with Android VPN framework?
When do they expect widespread android availability?

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Re: Internet Filters
« Reply #2079 on: May 20, 2019, 06:07:21 PM »
Interesting. That makes me wonder ... If I only have service on one of the devices (and get that filtered) and always tether to the other devices,  would those other devices automatically be filtered? (Because the data that's being sent is already 'filtered')
if the other devices use the VPN on the original device then technically it should work (you would have to install the security certificate on each device)