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If you are travelling to South Africa with a child under 18, you will need to have a birth certificate for the child which includes the names of both parents as they are on the parents' passports. They are very strict about this and will not let you in without it.

For a detailed look at the rules, including what is needed for a child travelling with only one parent or alone see here


Cape Town

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UPDATED: http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp


Restaurants


Avron's Place (Sea Point)
The longest running kosher meat restaurant in South Africa, Avron’s Place on Sea Point’s Regent Road is a very popular choice amongst Cape Town’s Orthodox Jewish community. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, which is supervised by the Beth Din, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Though prices are generally rather reasonable (particularly by kosher food standards), Avron’s drops costs further on Tuesdays with a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). The restaurant also does takeaways and catering for functions and will gladly pack Shabbat meals for visitors to Cape Town. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; Friday: 11am – 2:30pm
19 – 33 Regent Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 7610
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/avrons-place-sea-point/menu.


The Press (Sea Point) Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap)


Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: noon – late Friday: 11am – 3pm Sat night: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
176 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 434 7724



Coffee Time (Gardens)
Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment, this kosher milchik coffee shop is a fine option for a relaxing breakfast, brunch or lunch on a sunny day. Guests can sit outside on the lawn while enjoying stunning views of Table Mountain and tucking into anything from a scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap or fish bobotie with homemade chutney to tuna lasagne, a sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. The eatery runs an early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. For those will allergies, there are gluten-free and sugar-free options, and Coffee Time caters for functions – think weddings, bat/bar mitzvahs or birthdays – too. As the cherry on the kosher cake, all proceeds from the restaurant go to supporting the Astra Centre, which aims to provide employment for those with mental illnesses and special needs, so diners can rest assured their meal is helping out a good cause.
Opening Hours: Monday – Thursday: 8am – 3:30pm; Friday: 8am – 3pm
20 Breda Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 461 8414


Café Riteve (Gardens)
This charming milchik café, which was founded in 2000, is conveniently located right in the heart of town on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. The menu is large and varied and includes items like a three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. For the thirsty, the eatery also sells a range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. It caters for special occasions and offers takeaways, but unfortunately doesn’t deliver; though, considering that the interior is tastefully adorned and the ambience inviting, Jewish diners will likely want to spend some time at the café in any case.They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 5pm; Friday: 8:30am – 3pm
88 Hatfield Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 465 1594
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/cafe-riteve-gardens/menu.


Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Started by Goldie Wener back in 1992, this popular kosher food spot has evolved over time from a small home business to include a meat and parev deli, a sit-down diner and a bakery. The simple but flavourful fare is still made from Goldie’s grandmother’s recipes, and options include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Plus, there are specials every Wednesday and Friday (these change weekly but you can look forward to deals like a three-course meal for four for R120) and there’s also a very affordable seniors menu for elderly individuals living in and around the area (delivery is free in Sea Point). The bakery stocks delectable treats like carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Kosher Cape Town dwellers can also place orders for Shabbat meals if they don’t have the time to prepare the dishes themselves.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 8pm; Friday: 8:30am – 4:30pm
174 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 3008
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/goldies-deli-sea-point/menu.



Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
Cab -
Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Boulders Beach
   - For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
    - 35 mins from CPT
    - Can hop fence
    - "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
Betty’s Bay
    - a less crowded, and not as known, boulders beach with penguins
Chapman's Peak Drive
   - Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
    - 45 rand per car
    - 45 mins from CPT
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
    - LONG but AMAZING drive
    - almost a full day activity
    - 135 rand pp
    - 1.5 hours from CPT
Lions Head (Hike - not difficult)
    - paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated)
        - BOOK AHEAD
Robben Island
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
    - Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
    - Can repel down
        - 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
            - repel for like 15 mins
            - hike back up is 25 mins
    - Chairlift costs 255 rand pp
    - Closes 6pm
    - BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill (go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route - long scenic drive
Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
  - Can do so in Gansbaii
  - $88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)
  - 2 hour drive from CPT
  - Links:1, 2, 3
Sandboarding
   - Bring goggles!
Skydiving
   - Price: $170 (prices might be outdated)
   - Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)
Hout Bay market
Cango Wildlife Ranch
Cheetah outreach
    - where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool
Winelands : [Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
      - Franschoek
      - Kosher wineries:
          - Kleine Dracken
          - backsberg

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel, Phone: +27 11 440-3160.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/corner-cafe-glenhazel


Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 883-2265.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/deejays-deli-morningside.


Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
cholov Yisroel cafe

KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 440 1402.
http://www.kosherworld.co.za/Mivami.aspx & http://www.kosherworld.co.za/ChopandWok.aspx.


Brioche (Glenhazel)
Brioche is a new (as of July 2016) non chalav yisrael (with CY options) dairy place across the street from Kosher World. It's quite fancy and more expensive than Michelos, though still cheap by American standards at ~R15:$1. Their 6 textures of dark chocolate dessert was out of this world.
53 Ridge Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 028 1244/55.

Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.

Michelos (Glenhazel)
Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1500.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/michelos-pizzeria-glenhazel/menu.


Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1496.
https://www.yumbi.com/menu/stores-1285/view/Nandos-Kosher.


Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 728-2577.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/next-door-norwood.


Pie Works (Sandringham)
Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. +27 11 485 2447.
http://www.thepieworks.co.za/.


RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.

The Deli Store (Sandton)
Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices.
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor, Phone: 011-656-3142 / 4915.
Email: info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/.


So Sushi (Glenhazel)

Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #450 on: December 08, 2015, 04:35:14 PM »
2 looks tidier to me.
Me too. Option 2's flights look like this:

LAX-DXB 4:45pm-7:35pm+1 (overnight in DXB) DXB-JNB 2:40 pm-8:50p. No return flights yet, though hoping for QR/ QR+EY.

Only benefit of Option 1 is all flights are available now.

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« Reply #451 on: December 08, 2015, 04:36:43 PM »
Regarding the PR, we'd have a baby with us. I don't know if that makes it easier or harder (I'd imagine harder), so then maybe we'd just fly.
I know we can do things in JNB on Friday (albeit in the winter). The only problem I have with option 2 is no return flights yet, though the dates are better for me.
Who;s winter, when are you going
It's summer there now
and even in the winter it never gets that early (earliest shkia in JNB is 530pm)

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« Reply #452 on: December 08, 2015, 04:39:01 PM »
HDS or SZK? if you stay at a fancy place they'll pick you up and take care of the game drives and everything... $$$$. Truthfully for that you;re better off in one of the Game reserves like Sabi-sabi

it's 5 hours to Skukuza (or the main gate), from there you;re own your own. Speed in the park is 50km max btw
You'd have to figure out where you;re staying first, they'd have an address you can use google maps for
why wouldn;t you fly HDS or SZKto CPT? the only other option would be to fly back thru jnb, Shame Comair (BA's local airline) and Kulula doesn;t do that area
The idea wasn't to spend $$$ at expensive places, though maybe that's the only reasonable option. What do people do who don't stay at those places? Do they just drive around themselves?

Wait, you;r going with a baby? have you spoken to the Dr about Malaria ?
Yeah, we'd be going with a baby, but in winter. I didn't speak to any doctors yet about Malaria, but I was under the impression you didn't need shots to see KNP. Am I way wrong there? Has anyone else here ever brought a baby to KNP?

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« Reply #453 on: December 08, 2015, 04:40:02 PM »
Who;s winter, when are you going
It's summer there now
and even in the winter it never gets that early (earliest shkia in JNB is 530pm)
Their winter, July/August.

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« Reply #454 on: December 08, 2015, 04:50:51 PM »
Winter is not malaria season, but it is still a concern. You don't need shots - you need malaria pills. Though some might say you don't in that season, speak to your doctor.

Kruger can not be done with points. You book accommodation with $$. The more you spend, the better you'll get taken care of. Most basic camps will include at least a guided morning or night drive or both. The rest of the day you drive around yourself. If you stay in the luxury camps, they'll drive you around the entire time, and arrange to pick you up from the airport, etc. There are tours which will drive you from JNB, see upthread for recommendations

The benefit of the guided open-top jeep tours can not be overstated. They spot stuff you wouldn't dream of of seeing, they are treasure troves of information, the morning/night drives are at times you are not allowed to even self drive, and animals are more prevalent then.
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« Reply #455 on: December 08, 2015, 04:51:49 PM »
Winter is not malaria season, but it is still a concern. You don't need shots - you need malaria pills. Though some might say you don't in that season, speak to your doctor.

Kruger can not be done with points. You book accommodation with $$. The more you spend, the better you'll get taken care of. Most basic camps will include at least a guided morning or night drive or both. The rest of the day you drive around yourself. If you stay in the luxury camps, they'll drive you around the entire time, and arrange to pick you up from the airport, etc. There are tours which will drive you from JNB, see upthread for recommendations

The benefit of the guided open-top jeep tours can not be overstated. They spot stuff you wouldn't dream of of seeing, they are treasure troves of information, the morning/night drives are at times you are not allowed to even self drive, and animals are more prevalent then.
Price ranges?
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« Reply #456 on: December 08, 2015, 04:57:16 PM »
Price ranges?

Sorry, I've never done a paid tour. I will say the exchange rate is getting more and more favorable for tourists.
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« Reply #457 on: December 08, 2015, 04:57:52 PM »
Winter is not malaria season, but it is still a concern. You don't need shots - you need malaria pills. Though some might say you don't in that season, speak to your doctor.

Kruger can not be done with points. You book accommodation with $$. The more you spend, the better you'll get taken care of. Most basic camps will include at least a guided morning or night drive or both. The rest of the day you drive around yourself. If you stay in the luxury camps, they'll drive you around the entire time, and arrange to pick you up from the airport, etc. There are tours which will drive you from JNB, see upthread for recommendations

The benefit of the guided open-top jeep tours can not be overstated. They spot stuff you wouldn't dream of of seeing, they are treasure troves of information, the morning/night drives are at times you are not allowed to even self drive, and animals are more prevalent then.
I wonder if Kruger can even be done though a UR portal. For sure  Barclays A+ will work, but I understand your point. I guess I'll speak to a doctor about traveling with a baby. I imagine I'm not the first to want to, though obviously July is way better than Apr or Dec.

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« Reply #458 on: December 08, 2015, 04:58:18 PM »
Sorry, I've never done a paid tour. I will say the exchange rate is getting more and more favorable for tourists.
So what did you do when you went, or have you never gone?

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« Reply #459 on: December 08, 2015, 05:00:54 PM »
So what did you do when you went, or have you never gone?

I'm from JNB - always done self drives.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #460 on: December 08, 2015, 05:03:00 PM »
The idea wasn't to spend $$$ at expensive places, though maybe that's the only reasonable option.
 What do people do who don't stay at those places? Do they just drive around themselves?
Yeah, we'd be going with a baby, but in winter. I didn't speak to any doctors yet about Malaria, but I was under the impression you didn't need shots to see KNP. Am I way wrong there? Has anyone else here ever brought a baby to KNP?
You have lots of options, there are lots of tour guides from everywhere, that work alone (not with a hotel or camp) you could drive yourself, but your chance of seeing something is much lower, KNP is the size of Israel (just to give you an idea)
In the winter there is less of a malaria risk, but you can't afaik give a baby any medicine just put on OFF deep woods and hope for the best and stay indoors sunrise and sunset
This may be another reason to skip the park altogether and go to a game reserve were the risk is even lower (or go to one that doesn;t have a risk at all)
(the highest risk is in the park and game reserves outside have a lower risk not sure why as they are attached to the park like Mala-Mala and sabi sand )
There is Pilansburg (not a fan) a 2 hour drive from JNB and next to sun city which is an option
2 hours further is Madikwe on the Botswana border that some friends of mine rave about, that are not in Malaria country at all
Iv'e brought little kids but never stayed overnight in the park with them and just put on bug spray
i also only did self drives

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #461 on: December 08, 2015, 05:39:34 PM »
I'm from JNB - always done self drives.
Cool! How successful were you at seeing things, and at what time of the year did you go? If you wen't more than once, which it sounds  like you did, did you have much luck in the winter?

You have lots of options, there are lots of tour guides from everywhere, that work alone (not with a hotel or camp) you could drive yourself, but your chance of seeing something is much lower, KNP is the size of Israel (just to give you an idea)
In the winter there is less of a malaria risk, but you can't afaik give a baby any medicine just put on OFF deep woods and hope for the best and stay indoors sunrise and sunset
This may be another reason to skip the park altogether and go to a game reserve were the risk is even lower (or go to one that doesn;t have a risk at all)
(the highest risk is in the park and game reserves outside have a lower risk not sure why as they are attached to the park like Mala-Mala and sabi sand )
There is Pilansburg (not a fan) a 2 hour drive from JNB and next to sun city which is an option
2 hours further is Madikwe on the Botswana border that some friends of mine rave about, that are not in Malaria country at all
Iv'e brought little kids but never stayed overnight in the park with them and just put on bug spray
i also only did self drives
Wow, I really appreciate you taking the time to write as much as you are. It sounds like there are other options besides KNP for seeing these animals that would be better suited for taking a baby. The game reserves (like Mala Mala) sound like an good idea, but as you said, how is there a lower malaria risk if it's attached to the park? Maybe the Malaria risk is at a different side/area of the park? I mean if KNP is the size of Israel, it would make sense that some areas have a risk while other's don't.

If we went for the Madikwe Game Reserve, would it make sense to fly to GBE (Gaborone, Botswana) instead of driving from JNB? How does it compare to KNP in terms of scenery, animals, etc.? Why don't more people go there?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #462 on: December 08, 2015, 06:20:38 PM »
Going to Kruger in winter is a great idea (not as good for CPT though).

Winter = less watering holes = more animals.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #463 on: December 08, 2015, 06:30:18 PM »
Cool! How successful were you at seeing things, and at what time of the year did you go? If you wen't more than once, which it sounds  like you did, did you have much luck in the winter?
Wow, I really appreciate you taking the time to write as much as you are. It sounds like there are other options besides KNP for seeing these animals that would be better suited for taking a baby. The game reserves (like Mala Mala) sound like an good idea, but as you said, how is there a lower malaria risk if it's attached to the park? Maybe the Malaria risk is at a different side/area of the park? I mean if KNP is the size of Israel, it would make sense that some areas have a risk while other's don't.

If we went for the Madikwe Game Reserve, would it make sense to fly to GBE (Gaborone, Botswana) instead of driving from JNB? How does it compare to KNP in terms of scenery, animals, etc.? Why don't more people go there?
best time is the dry season which is the winter https://www.safaribookings.com/kruger/best-time
It's possible that they spray outside the park or do some sort of management of the mosquito, in the park itself, the staff pride themselves on telling you that this is the animals home and the humans needs to respect that (i was told that after getting bitten by a couple massive hornets while at an outhouse at a hide in the middle of nowhere, when i got back to a camp that what i was told, they wouldn't even put up a sign that there might be a hive in the loo... whatever)
Madikwe was never popular until recently, i heard it became also a big luxury getaway place, like the type you'd see in one of these fancy travel and leisure mags and fully stocked, but do your own research
you could fly to Gabarone, i'm not sure about visa's etc. They both drive on the left so it should be fairly simple to go across they charge a tax of R3000 or so ($275?)
If you drive up you can stop see Hartebeesport Dam and Sun City (staying in the lost city used to be a big thing, maybe it still is http://www.suninternational.com/palace/)

I always saw something, not always everytime seeing all of the big 5.
The coolest was after getting stung we saw a huge herd of African Buffalo chilling out, was quite a site. then drove across the crocodile river in flood
i never saw an actual kill, just the aftermath , the guides are usually good at this (maybe they even cause it ...lol)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #464 on: December 08, 2015, 06:49:09 PM »
Going to Kruger in winter is a great idea (not as good for CPT though).

Winter = less watering holes = more animals.
I'm aware Kurger is best in winter and CPT best in summer, but I'd rather be in CPT off seasons than KNP. Going with a baby will take some more research and consulting a doctor. I still don't know how likely malaria is in winter. Even in sub warm locals like LA (the temperatures in KNP seem similar to LA's winter temps) there aren't any mosquitoes when it's cold out in the mornings.