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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

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« Reply #320 on: July 29, 2015, 05:15:37 PM »
If I remember correctly the outbound flights from JNB are both around 11/11:30 and the return flights are around 1:30pm only one roundtrip to each every day.

That's all I was able to find as well when we went. Was hoping to do a morning to the falls and an afternoon/evening back in order to get two full days there, but wound up only getting two half days because of the flight schedules.

It seems in general that many of the intra-Africa routes are on a once daily midday r/t.
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« Reply #321 on: July 29, 2015, 05:24:26 PM »
I'm going in about 3 weeks. Do you think I'll be able to do Devil's Pool?

According to this site (http://www.namibia-tours-safaris.com/destinations/victoria-falls/best-time-to-visit-victoria-falls.htm) it seems that the low season has basically already started. This sounds right based on what I remember the guide telling us.

Even if you don't get to do Devil's Pool, AFAIK they will always put you in the water above the falls in some fashion as part of the tour (Only the last two tours of the day - Lunch and High Tea IIRC). We were there in March which is much higher water levels, and still managed to get in the water pretty darn close to the edge - see pic here (https://instagram.com/p/0QZoHfBQyG).

On a different note, if you're going when the water is low, you may want to do the White Water Rafting in the gorge, I heard it it amazing, but unfortunately when we were there the water was much too high for that.
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« Reply #322 on: July 29, 2015, 07:11:06 PM »
If I remember correctly the outbound flights from JNB are both around 11/11:30 and the return flights are around 1:30pm only one roundtrip to each every day.
that really messes up my schedule. The earliest I can get there is Wednesday and don't want to stay there for Shabbos...
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« Reply #323 on: July 30, 2015, 12:43:17 AM »
that really messes up my schedule. The earliest I can get there is Wednesday and don't want to stay there for Shabbos...

What time does the Friday flight get back in to JNB? Or maybe look into another airline, there was a budget airline flying from VFA to JNB flyafrica.

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« Reply #324 on: July 30, 2015, 01:54:44 AM »
What time does the Friday flight get back in to JNB? Or maybe look into another airline, there was a budget airline flying from VFA to JNB flyafrica.

IIRC all of the airlines flew about the same time, getting into JNB in the 2:30/3:00 range.

that really messes up my schedule. The earliest I can get there is Wednesday and don't want to stay there for Shabbos...

If it's any consolation, because of these flight schedules we also got stuck doing two half days in VF. Took the Sunday flight there and the Monday flight back. We were able to pack in a ton in that short amount of time, and didn't walk away feeling shortchanged. So if you decide to take the Wed flight there and the Thu flight back, I think you can still get a great Falls experience.
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« Reply #325 on: July 30, 2015, 02:12:18 AM »
IIRC all of the airlines flew about the same time, getting into JNB in the 2:30/3:00 range.

If it's any consolation, because of these flight schedules we also got stuck doing two half days in VF. Took the Sunday flight there and the Monday flight back. We were able to pack in a ton in that short amount of time, and didn't walk away feeling shortchanged. So if you decide to take the Wed flight there and the Thu flight back, I think you can still get a great Falls experience.

Yes I felt like we got a ton in our two half days too.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #326 on: July 30, 2015, 04:15:28 AM »
I would like to see Victoria Falls on both sides, devils pool, canopy tours zip line, and Chobe Safari. Am I crazy?
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« Reply #327 on: July 30, 2015, 10:23:35 AM »
I would like to see Victoria Falls on both sides, devils pool, canopy tours zip line, and Chobe Safari. Am I crazy?

In two half days yes. Keep in mind the drive alone to chobe is an hour each way. There are some closer not as good safari parks that u can do with less time.

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« Reply #328 on: July 30, 2015, 11:12:08 AM »
I would like to see Victoria Falls on both sides, devils pool, canopy tours zip line, and Chobe Safari. Am I crazy?

The Chobe Safari is the one thing that really takes that out of the range of being plausible. The rest sounds totally doable.

As far as seeing the falls from both sides, when you do Devil's Pool/The Livingstone Island Tour, you are seeing the falls from the Zambia side, so you really don't need to make that it's own stop as well. On the Zimbabwe side, there is an entire park dedicated to seeing the falls, and it can take ~2 hours to really go through it, especially if you're gonna wanna keep stopping to take pix. I didn't realize how extensive it was gonna be, so we had only allotted about a half hour for it and wound up having to rush to make it back to the airport in time for our flight back.

And speaking of the flight back, it's worth noting that VFA is a very small airport, and when we were there it was the same one line with two agents for all of the airlines, with multiple flights to JNB all scheduled for about the same time in the middle of the day. This resulted in a looooong line, and over there having elite status or a premium class itin didn't seem to make a difference to them. So in case you assumed that because it's a tiny airport you can cut it close with your timing, be aware.
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« Reply #329 on: July 30, 2015, 12:00:47 PM »
do you think it would make sense to stay another night so i can go to Chobe Safari? which means leave on Friday. im not going to have time to do Kruger....
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« Reply #330 on: July 30, 2015, 12:48:24 PM »
Just a couple of thoughts obout travel to Zim. Forget about those who say you dont need anti-malaria pills. Malaria kills millions of people a year and Vic Falls is in a high malaria zone.  Chobe is great but requires a full day from Vic Falls. You drive to the border(1hour) then go thru passport control and then drive to Chobe and do a boat and driving safari. Definitely worthwhile.  The whitewater rafting is some of the best in the world.  Done it a couple of times and its great. There is also a bunch of other great things to do - helicopter over the falls, bunjy. elephant back safari(didnt do this). There is also some great souvenir shopping opportunities - soapstone etc. 

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #331 on: July 30, 2015, 04:09:12 PM »
The Chobe Safari is the one thing that really takes that out of the range of being plausible. The rest sounds totally doable.

As far as seeing the falls from both sides, when you do Devil's Pool/The Livingstone Island Tour, you are seeing the falls from the Zambia side, so you really don't need to make that it's own stop as well. On the Zimbabwe side, there is an entire park dedicated to seeing the falls, and it can take ~2 hours to really go through it, especially if you're gonna wanna keep stopping to take pix. I didn't realize how extensive it was gonna be, so we had only allotted about a half hour for it and wound up having to rush to make it back to the airport in time for our flight back.

And speaking of the flight back, it's worth noting that VFA is a very small airport, and when we were there it was the same one line with two agents for all of the airlines, with multiple flights to JNB all scheduled for about the same time in the middle of the day. This resulted in a looooong line, and over there having elite status or a premium class itin didn't seem to make a difference to them. So in case you assumed that because it's a tiny airport you can cut it close with your timing, be aware.

The Zambia side has plenty of unique view points that should definitely make it a stop of of its own. You can get a lot closer to the falls on that side too. Plus the airport on the Zambia side is world class compared to Victoria falls airport, much more modern and fresh, VFA is just like a small run down house, LVI is a small airport.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #332 on: July 30, 2015, 05:25:32 PM »
do you think it would make sense to stay another night so i can go to Chobe Safari? which means leave on Friday. im not going to have time to do Kruger....
I found a one way ticket from Vic Falls to JNB for $100. Is it risky with Shabbos flying on a Friday? Is it worth it just to have the extra time to see Chobe Safari?
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #333 on: July 30, 2015, 05:34:29 PM »
I found a one way ticket from Vic Falls to JNB for $100. Is it risky with Shabbos flying on a Friday? Is it worth it just to have the extra time to see Chobe Safari?

Which airline, what time does it arrive and what time is shabbos?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #334 on: July 30, 2015, 05:39:27 PM »
I found a one way ticket from Vic Falls to JNB for $100. Is it risky with Shabbos flying on a Friday? Is it worth it just to have the extra time to see Chobe Safari?
Chobe is amazing. However to appreciate it you ideally need a few days. The game is more spread out then in Kruger or the Eastern African parks. You'll see tremendous herds of Elephants and it has really wild feel to it. That being said it's hard to appreciate that without spending a few days in Chobe.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #335 on: July 30, 2015, 06:42:54 PM »
Which airline, what time does it arrive and what time is shabbos?
the price went up to $120. It's with Air Zimbabwe. Arrives at 12:45. Sunset for that day is 5:41.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #336 on: July 30, 2015, 06:44:34 PM »
Chobe is amazing. However to appreciate it you ideally need a few days. The game is more spread out then in Kruger or the Eastern African parks. You'll see tremendous herds of Elephants and it has really wild feel to it. That being said it's hard to appreciate that without spending a few days in Chobe.
I wish I had more time there. It's the way sukkos falls out this year. I don't have time for Kruger.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #337 on: July 30, 2015, 06:53:47 PM »
the price went up to $120. It's with Air Zimbabwe. Arrives at 12:45. Sunset for that day is 5:41.

I would say 5 hours is good. Is there any way for you to check flight data for this flight online, to see the on time arrival percentage? Worst comes to worse u would even have enough time to take the alternative flight too.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #338 on: July 30, 2015, 07:10:00 PM »
Which alternative flight? They all leave about the same time.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #339 on: July 30, 2015, 07:19:36 PM »
Which alternative flight? They all leave about the same time.
Not exactly. I see 1:15, 1:55 and 2:40 flights.