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If you are travelling to South Africa with a child under 18, you will need to have a birth certificate for the child which includes the names of both parents as they are on the parents' passports. They are very strict about this and will not let you in without it.

For a detailed look at the rules, including what is needed for a child travelling with only one parent or alone see here


Cape Town

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UPDATED: http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp


Restaurants


Avron's Place (Sea Point)
The longest running kosher meat restaurant in South Africa, Avron’s Place on Sea Point’s Regent Road is a very popular choice amongst Cape Town’s Orthodox Jewish community. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, which is supervised by the Beth Din, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Though prices are generally rather reasonable (particularly by kosher food standards), Avron’s drops costs further on Tuesdays with a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). The restaurant also does takeaways and catering for functions and will gladly pack Shabbat meals for visitors to Cape Town. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; Friday: 11am – 2:30pm
19 – 33 Regent Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 7610
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/avrons-place-sea-point/menu.


The Press (Sea Point) Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap)


Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: noon – late Friday: 11am – 3pm Sat night: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
176 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 434 7724



Coffee Time (Gardens)
Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment, this kosher milchik coffee shop is a fine option for a relaxing breakfast, brunch or lunch on a sunny day. Guests can sit outside on the lawn while enjoying stunning views of Table Mountain and tucking into anything from a scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap or fish bobotie with homemade chutney to tuna lasagne, a sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. The eatery runs an early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. For those will allergies, there are gluten-free and sugar-free options, and Coffee Time caters for functions – think weddings, bat/bar mitzvahs or birthdays – too. As the cherry on the kosher cake, all proceeds from the restaurant go to supporting the Astra Centre, which aims to provide employment for those with mental illnesses and special needs, so diners can rest assured their meal is helping out a good cause.
Opening Hours: Monday – Thursday: 8am – 3:30pm; Friday: 8am – 3pm
20 Breda Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 461 8414


Café Riteve (Gardens)
This charming milchik café, which was founded in 2000, is conveniently located right in the heart of town on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. The menu is large and varied and includes items like a three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. For the thirsty, the eatery also sells a range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. It caters for special occasions and offers takeaways, but unfortunately doesn’t deliver; though, considering that the interior is tastefully adorned and the ambience inviting, Jewish diners will likely want to spend some time at the café in any case.They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 5pm; Friday: 8:30am – 3pm
88 Hatfield Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 465 1594
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/cafe-riteve-gardens/menu.


Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Started by Goldie Wener back in 1992, this popular kosher food spot has evolved over time from a small home business to include a meat and parev deli, a sit-down diner and a bakery. The simple but flavourful fare is still made from Goldie’s grandmother’s recipes, and options include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Plus, there are specials every Wednesday and Friday (these change weekly but you can look forward to deals like a three-course meal for four for R120) and there’s also a very affordable seniors menu for elderly individuals living in and around the area (delivery is free in Sea Point). The bakery stocks delectable treats like carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Kosher Cape Town dwellers can also place orders for Shabbat meals if they don’t have the time to prepare the dishes themselves.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 8pm; Friday: 8:30am – 4:30pm
174 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 3008
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/goldies-deli-sea-point/menu.



Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Major Activities
Boulders Beach
   - For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
    - 35 mins from CPT
    - Can hop fence
    - "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
Betty’s Bay
    - a less crowded, and not as known, boulders beach with penguins
Chapman's Peak Drive
   - Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
    - 45 rand per car
    - 45 mins from CPT
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
    - LONG but AMAZING drive
    - almost a full day activity
    - 135 rand pp
    - 1.5 hours from CPT
Lions Head (Hike - not difficult)
    - paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated)
        - BOOK AHEAD
Robben Island
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
    - Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
    - Can repel down
        - 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
            - repel for like 15 mins
            - hike back up is 25 mins
    - Chairlift costs 255 rand pp
    - Closes 6pm
    - BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill (go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route - long scenic drive
Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
  - Can do so in Gansbaii
  - $88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)
  - 2 hour drive from CPT
  - Links:1, 2, 3
Sandboarding
   - Bring goggles!
Skydiving
   - Price: $170 (prices might be outdated)
   - Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)
Hout Bay market
Cango Wildlife Ranch
Cheetah outreach
    - where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool
Winelands : [Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
      - Franschoek
      - Kosher wineries:
          - Kleine Dracken
          - backsberg

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel, Phone: +27 11 440-3160.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/corner-cafe-glenhazel


Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 883-2265.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/deejays-deli-morningside.


Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
cholov Yisroel cafe

KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 440 1402.
http://www.kosherworld.co.za/Mivami.aspx & http://www.kosherworld.co.za/ChopandWok.aspx.


Brioche (Glenhazel)
Brioche is a new (as of July 2016) non chalav yisrael (with CY options) dairy place across the street from Kosher World. It's quite fancy and more expensive than Michelos, though still cheap by American standards at ~R15:$1. Their 6 textures of dark chocolate dessert was out of this world.
53 Ridge Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 028 1244/55.

Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.

Michelos (Glenhazel)
Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1500.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/michelos-pizzeria-glenhazel/menu.


Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1496.
https://www.yumbi.com/menu/stores-1285/view/Nandos-Kosher.


Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 728-2577.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/next-door-norwood.


Pie Works (Sandringham)
Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. +27 11 485 2447.
http://www.thepieworks.co.za/.


RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.

The Deli Store (Sandton)
Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices.
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor, Phone: 011-656-3142 / 4915.
Email: info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/.


So Sushi (Glenhazel)

Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #585 on: February 10, 2016, 01:11:22 PM »
I have been told they're really tough these days as they're trying to crack down on kid trafficking.
How many white kids are trafficed into SA?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #586 on: February 10, 2016, 01:47:17 PM »
How many white kids are trafficed into SA?
it's what they call in politics an unintended consequense
There is a huge push to change that part of law, everything in SA politics moves at a glacial pace
http://www.msn.com/en-za/lifestyle/travel/sas-visa-rules-in-review-5-key-developments-to-keep-an-eye-on/ar-BBpbfYv?ocid=spartandhp
To be safe i ordered full BC's for everyone that doesn;t yet have

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #587 on: February 10, 2016, 01:50:59 PM »
Wow, I just read that minors entering and exiting South Africa need a copy of their birth certificate in addition to their passport, even with both parents present. Has anyone gone recently (since the law was passed in 2014) with a minor without a birth certificate?
and yes they are extremely makpid
they'll check you at every point of the journey (once in LA, once in NY, once in Dubai etc. )
Most US birth certificates are what they call full anyway

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« Reply #588 on: February 10, 2016, 01:59:06 PM »
and yes they are extremely makpid
they'll check you at every point of the journey (once in LA, once in NY, once in Dubai etc. )
Most US birth certificates are what they call full anyway
and then this shows up on my feed http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/unabridged-birth-certificate-travel-rule-scrapped-20160205

not authoritative though

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« Reply #589 on: February 10, 2016, 02:20:58 PM »
and then this shows up on my feed http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/unabridged-birth-certificate-travel-rule-scrapped-20160205

not authoritative though
Interesting stuff. In terms of the birth certificate thing though, only using the new passports seems to apply specifically to SA passport holders, not foreign (US) passports since the parents' details would not be included. Also we're not stopping in NY, just DXB ;).

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #590 on: February 10, 2016, 03:25:15 PM »
Interesting stuff. In terms of the birth certificate thing though, only using the new passports seems to apply specifically to new SA passport holders, not foreign (US) passports since the parents' details would not be included. Also we're not stopping in NY, just DXB ;).
FTFM
like i said it ain;t over for foreign visitors till they actually get rid of the law


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« Reply #591 on: February 10, 2016, 03:43:04 PM »
FTFM
like i said it ain;t over for foreign visitors till they actually get rid of the law
All true.

New question: When people visit Joburg for shabbos, do they usually stay in Glenhazel or Norwood? There don't seem to be many hotels (besides this one) around. just a few Airbnb places, a couple of which appear to be frum people. Do people just get hosted at people's houses?

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« Reply #592 on: February 10, 2016, 03:51:58 PM »
All true.

New question: When people visit Joburg for shabbos, do they usually stay in Glenhazel or Norwood? There don't seem to be many hotels (besides this one) around. just a few Airbnb places, a couple of which appear to be frum people. Do people just get hosted at people's houses?
I dont know anything about that hotel but that area is smack in the middle of the "north" right by lots of kosher shops
I assume you have to know people to get hosted but South Africans are super friendly and love hosting
(Shabbos in the North is an all day affair)
Glenhazel is where it's at, not much going on in Norwood (although they aren;t that far apart)

The Genesis seems to be in shopping center (or on top of it?) i wonder what the shabbos issues might be, especially due to the security issues in SA
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« Reply #593 on: February 10, 2016, 03:54:00 PM »
I dont know anything about that hotel but that area is smack in the middle of the "north" right by lots of kosher shops
I assume you have to know people to get hosted but South Africans are super friendly and love hosting
(Shabbos in the North is an all day affair)
Glenhazel is where it's at, not much going on in Norwood (although they aren;t that far apart)
Where's the "south"? Is it a bigger community?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #594 on: February 10, 2016, 04:06:20 PM »
Where's the "south"? Is it a bigger community?
LOL not any more
JNB like most communities is "on the move"
what started downtown (wolmrans street) 100+ years ago and moved to the suburbs slowly, Berea Hillbrow, Yoeville and Observatory (the south) were large jewish neighborhoods with many shuls and schools
there is practically no-one left. Hillbrow is a no go zone Yoeville has maybe one minyan left and Observatory has the Yeshiva and R' Kurtsdag's minyan (even that not every week)
Everything is now consolidated in the North (or Sandton which is really much further north but not called the "north")
all the other neighborhoods are dead or dying
Lots of Shluchim manning those empty forts

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« Reply #595 on: February 10, 2016, 04:08:06 PM »
LOL not any more
JNB like most communities is "on the move"
what started downtown (wolmrans street) 100+ years ago and moved to the suburbs slowly, Berea Hillbrow, Yoeville and Observatory (the south) were large jewish neighborhoods with many shuls and schools
there is practically no-one left. Hillbrow is a no go zone Yoeville has maybe one minyan left and Observatory has the Yeshiva and R' Kurtsdag's minyan (even that not every week)
Everything is now consolidated in the North (or Sandton which is really much further north but not called the "north")
all the other neighborhoods are dead or dying
Lots of Shluchim manning those empty forts
Where do visitors usually spend shabbos then? Sandton or Glenhazel? Seems like Glenhazel wins.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #596 on: February 10, 2016, 04:09:54 PM »
Glenhazel is where it's at
Meharsha, Sunny Road, OhrSom, yeshiva College
R' Salzer R' Saffer and lots more

here's another choice by the way
http://www.glenhazelbandb.co.za/

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #597 on: February 10, 2016, 04:41:28 PM »
Glenhazel is where it's at
Meharsha, Sunny Road, OhrSom, yeshiva College
R' Salzer R' Saffer and lots more

here's another choice by the way
http://www.glenhazelbandb.co.za/
Interesting B&B. I'll try to see if we can contact people and try to get set up first though.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #598 on: February 16, 2016, 07:01:42 PM »
I'm looking more into going to Pilanesberg National Park instead of KNP and wanted to know if 3 nights is enough or too much. Also if I wanted to bring food on my own from Joburg, are there places that will sell travel meals similar to POM?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #599 on: February 16, 2016, 07:15:25 PM »
I'm looking more into going to Pilanesberg National Park instead of KNP and wanted to know if 3 nights is enough or too much. Also if I wanted to bring food on my own from Joburg, are there places that will sell travel meals similar to POM?
if it becomes too much head over to Sun City

As far as ready to eat food, hmmm, SA'ens like to Braai, eat canned food, dreiwors and biltong... others literally bring the maid and the china. My guess is either its in the Hypermarket (picknpay) or  Kosher World. you may have to make it up yourself