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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #580 on: February 04, 2016, 04:02:30 PM »
Seems most hotels in the area aren't that expensive in the winter. There seem to be many places for under $100/night, some as cheap as $52/night. What's the main shul in CPT? Is it The Green & Sea Point Hebrew Congregation on Marais Road?
or OhrSom

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« Reply #581 on: February 04, 2016, 04:14:25 PM »
or OhrSom
Right. I still have to find out about babies at Airbnb though.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #582 on: February 10, 2016, 11:30:03 AM »
Hey guys I'm heading to South Africa in about a month and I just heard that you need two empty pages on your passport.
Does anyone have any expireance or info about this
Thanks a lot:-)

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« Reply #583 on: February 10, 2016, 11:34:16 AM »
Wow, I just read that minors entering and exiting South Africa need a copy of their birth certificate in addition to their passport, even with both parents present. Has anyone gone recently (since the law was passed in 2014) with a minor without a birth certificate?

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« Reply #584 on: February 10, 2016, 01:10:04 PM »
Wow, I just read that minors entering and exiting South Africa need a copy of their birth certificate in addition to their passport, even with both parents present. Has anyone gone recently (since the law was passed in 2014) with a minor without a birth certificate?
I have been told they're really tough these days as they're trying to crack down on kid trafficking.
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« Reply #585 on: February 10, 2016, 01:11:22 PM »
I have been told they're really tough these days as they're trying to crack down on kid trafficking.
How many white kids are trafficed into SA?

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« Reply #586 on: February 10, 2016, 01:47:17 PM »
How many white kids are trafficed into SA?
it's what they call in politics an unintended consequense
There is a huge push to change that part of law, everything in SA politics moves at a glacial pace
http://www.msn.com/en-za/lifestyle/travel/sas-visa-rules-in-review-5-key-developments-to-keep-an-eye-on/ar-BBpbfYv?ocid=spartandhp
To be safe i ordered full BC's for everyone that doesn;t yet have

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« Reply #587 on: February 10, 2016, 01:50:59 PM »
Wow, I just read that minors entering and exiting South Africa need a copy of their birth certificate in addition to their passport, even with both parents present. Has anyone gone recently (since the law was passed in 2014) with a minor without a birth certificate?
and yes they are extremely makpid
they'll check you at every point of the journey (once in LA, once in NY, once in Dubai etc. )
Most US birth certificates are what they call full anyway

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« Reply #588 on: February 10, 2016, 01:59:06 PM »
and yes they are extremely makpid
they'll check you at every point of the journey (once in LA, once in NY, once in Dubai etc. )
Most US birth certificates are what they call full anyway
and then this shows up on my feed http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/unabridged-birth-certificate-travel-rule-scrapped-20160205

not authoritative though

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« Reply #589 on: February 10, 2016, 02:20:58 PM »
and then this shows up on my feed http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/unabridged-birth-certificate-travel-rule-scrapped-20160205

not authoritative though
Interesting stuff. In terms of the birth certificate thing though, only using the new passports seems to apply specifically to SA passport holders, not foreign (US) passports since the parents' details would not be included. Also we're not stopping in NY, just DXB ;).

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« Reply #590 on: February 10, 2016, 03:25:15 PM »
Interesting stuff. In terms of the birth certificate thing though, only using the new passports seems to apply specifically to new SA passport holders, not foreign (US) passports since the parents' details would not be included. Also we're not stopping in NY, just DXB ;).
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like i said it ain;t over for foreign visitors till they actually get rid of the law


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« Reply #591 on: February 10, 2016, 03:43:04 PM »
FTFM
like i said it ain;t over for foreign visitors till they actually get rid of the law
All true.

New question: When people visit Joburg for shabbos, do they usually stay in Glenhazel or Norwood? There don't seem to be many hotels (besides this one) around. just a few Airbnb places, a couple of which appear to be frum people. Do people just get hosted at people's houses?

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« Reply #592 on: February 10, 2016, 03:51:58 PM »
All true.

New question: When people visit Joburg for shabbos, do they usually stay in Glenhazel or Norwood? There don't seem to be many hotels (besides this one) around. just a few Airbnb places, a couple of which appear to be frum people. Do people just get hosted at people's houses?
I dont know anything about that hotel but that area is smack in the middle of the "north" right by lots of kosher shops
I assume you have to know people to get hosted but South Africans are super friendly and love hosting
(Shabbos in the North is an all day affair)
Glenhazel is where it's at, not much going on in Norwood (although they aren;t that far apart)

The Genesis seems to be in shopping center (or on top of it?) i wonder what the shabbos issues might be, especially due to the security issues in SA
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« Reply #593 on: February 10, 2016, 03:54:00 PM »
I dont know anything about that hotel but that area is smack in the middle of the "north" right by lots of kosher shops
I assume you have to know people to get hosted but South Africans are super friendly and love hosting
(Shabbos in the North is an all day affair)
Glenhazel is where it's at, not much going on in Norwood (although they aren;t that far apart)
Where's the "south"? Is it a bigger community?

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« Reply #594 on: February 10, 2016, 04:06:20 PM »
Where's the "south"? Is it a bigger community?
LOL not any more
JNB like most communities is "on the move"
what started downtown (wolmrans street) 100+ years ago and moved to the suburbs slowly, Berea Hillbrow, Yoeville and Observatory (the south) were large jewish neighborhoods with many shuls and schools
there is practically no-one left. Hillbrow is a no go zone Yoeville has maybe one minyan left and Observatory has the Yeshiva and R' Kurtsdag's minyan (even that not every week)
Everything is now consolidated in the North (or Sandton which is really much further north but not called the "north")
all the other neighborhoods are dead or dying
Lots of Shluchim manning those empty forts

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« Reply #595 on: February 10, 2016, 04:08:06 PM »
LOL not any more
JNB like most communities is "on the move"
what started downtown (wolmrans street) 100+ years ago and moved to the suburbs slowly, Berea Hillbrow, Yoeville and Observatory (the south) were large jewish neighborhoods with many shuls and schools
there is practically no-one left. Hillbrow is a no go zone Yoeville has maybe one minyan left and Observatory has the Yeshiva and R' Kurtsdag's minyan (even that not every week)
Everything is now consolidated in the North (or Sandton which is really much further north but not called the "north")
all the other neighborhoods are dead or dying
Lots of Shluchim manning those empty forts
Where do visitors usually spend shabbos then? Sandton or Glenhazel? Seems like Glenhazel wins.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #596 on: February 10, 2016, 04:09:54 PM »
Glenhazel is where it's at
Meharsha, Sunny Road, OhrSom, yeshiva College
R' Salzer R' Saffer and lots more

here's another choice by the way
http://www.glenhazelbandb.co.za/

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« Reply #597 on: February 10, 2016, 04:41:28 PM »
Glenhazel is where it's at
Meharsha, Sunny Road, OhrSom, yeshiva College
R' Salzer R' Saffer and lots more

here's another choice by the way
http://www.glenhazelbandb.co.za/
Interesting B&B. I'll try to see if we can contact people and try to get set up first though.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #598 on: February 16, 2016, 07:01:42 PM »
I'm looking more into going to Pilanesberg National Park instead of KNP and wanted to know if 3 nights is enough or too much. Also if I wanted to bring food on my own from Joburg, are there places that will sell travel meals similar to POM?

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« Reply #599 on: February 16, 2016, 07:15:25 PM »
I'm looking more into going to Pilanesberg National Park instead of KNP and wanted to know if 3 nights is enough or too much. Also if I wanted to bring food on my own from Joburg, are there places that will sell travel meals similar to POM?
if it becomes too much head over to Sun City

As far as ready to eat food, hmmm, SA'ens like to Braai, eat canned food, dreiwors and biltong... others literally bring the maid and the china. My guess is either its in the Hypermarket (picknpay) or  Kosher World. you may have to make it up yourself