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UPDATED: Kosher Info from Beth Din in Cape Town (last updated Dec. 2020) http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp

Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #600 on: February 16, 2016, 07:21:53 PM »
if it becomes too much head over to Sun City

As far as ready to eat food, hmmm, SA'ens like to Braai, eat canned food, dreiwors and biltong... others literally bring the maid and the china. My guess is either its in the Hypermarket (picknpay) or  Kosher World. you may have to make it up yourself
Cool. I can't say the meat stuff appeals to me much, though if they have places you can pick up prepared food that could work. We could bring a cooler and bring that.

Main reason I'm asking is because I was looking into a tour and the price quoted seems quite high, whereas I found a nice place for $230 USD/night including all meals. I think spending an extra ~$1k for food and a car (which was what I was quoted in the price) seems quite high. Do you think a "tour"/having it arranged is more worth it?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #601 on: February 16, 2016, 07:27:01 PM »
All true.

New question: When people visit Joburg for shabbos, do they usually stay in Glenhazel or Norwood? There don't seem to be many hotels (besides this one) around. just a few Airbnb places, a couple of which appear to be frum people. Do people just get hosted at people's houses?

When we were there, we stayed at a family friend in Sandton.

Brought along a lot of biltong and meal mart meals.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #602 on: February 16, 2016, 07:32:31 PM »
When we were there, we stayed at a family friend in Sandton.

Brought along a lot of biltong and meal mart meals.
Thanks. We're looking into people to stay with. We have neighbors from there, so they may help. That'd be ideal.

Are you being sarcastic about biltong, or did you forget/not know that I don't eat that stuff? That makes sense for you. I guess meal mart meals are doable, though they all look so bad. Buying local stuff may be better.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #603 on: February 16, 2016, 07:33:32 PM »
Not being sarcastic, nor did I forget, just saying what we personally did.
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« Reply #604 on: February 16, 2016, 07:34:32 PM »
Not being sarcastic, nor did I forget, just saying what we personally did.
Yeah, I saw you edited that. Sorry about the confusion. You'd vote for that over a "tour"?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #605 on: February 16, 2016, 07:41:20 PM »
I dunno. Never considered a tour. If you're able to find a good one, with KSMLs, it may work out much better.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #606 on: February 16, 2016, 07:44:45 PM »
I dunno. Never considered a tour. If you're able to find a good one, with KSMLs, it may work out much better.
I got a quote which seems high. Seeing as I'd be driving myself and the lodge would be offering the game drives, it's not so much of a tour. Main thing is food, but is food really worth an extra ~$1k for 2 people for 4 lunches, 3 dinners and 3 breakfasts? Doesn't seem like it to me.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #607 on: February 17, 2016, 05:26:17 AM »
Hey!
Does anyone know if Im flying to South Africa how many empty pages do I need on my passport.
I have two empty (I.e pages 34 and 35)

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« Reply #608 on: February 17, 2016, 09:02:25 AM »
2 empty per entry, so if you go to Victoria Falls and then back to SA you need 2 empty pages then too.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #609 on: February 17, 2016, 10:29:04 AM »
I got a quote which seems high. Seeing as I'd be driving myself and the lodge would be offering the game drives, it's not so much of a tour. Main thing is food, but is food really worth an extra ~$1k for 2 people for 4 lunches, 3 dinners and 3 breakfasts? Doesn't seem like it to me.
$1k in dollars, seeing as the rand is really low,   seems rather high, i'm sure you can do better (i dont know of anyone though offhand)
As far as food why dont you PUTPAC Kosher world and see what they have

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« Reply #610 on: February 17, 2016, 10:40:33 AM »
$1k in dollars, seeing as the rand is really low,   seems rather high, i'm sure you can do better (i dont know of anyone though offhand)
As far as food why dont you PUTPAC Kosher world and see what they have
True, that's what I was thinking. I emailed back asking for a detailed breakdown and also mentioned I saw the lodge for ~$230/night. I plan on booking it myself (free cancellation until 1 month out) just in case. I spoke to the lodge itself last night and confirmed that everything is included (meals and game drives) with every rate the sell. We'll see what happens.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #611 on: February 17, 2016, 10:56:19 AM »
we have stayed at the Genesis and its is really great and convenient. It comes with breakfast and some of the items are/were from the kosher bakery across the road. Finding a family to host you might be tricky though. Better if you can get an introduction.

3 days in Pilansberg is overkill IMHO. Its good because it close to Joburg and you dont need malaria pills but its not a substitute for Kruger.
We have self catered in Kruger - eazy peazy
What is this tour/lodge etc?  Private game lodges around Kruger cost way more than $230/night. Is this per person?   

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #612 on: February 17, 2016, 10:58:57 AM »
3 days in Pilansburg is too much

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« Reply #613 on: February 17, 2016, 11:10:30 AM »
we have stayed at the Genesis and its is really great and convenient. It comes with breakfast and some of the items are/were from the kosher bakery across the road. Finding a family to host you might be tricky though. Better if you can get an introduction.

3 days in Pilansberg is overkill IMHO. Its good because it close to Joburg and you dont need malaria pills but its not a substitute for Kruger.
We have self catered in Kruger - eazy peazy
What is this tour/lodge etc?  Private game lodges around Kruger cost way more than $230/night. Is this per person?
Good to know about the Genesis. I still have to look into the connections we have there to find a place. Also did you get invited out for meals, or did you get takeout and eat in the hotel?

How many days would you recommend in Pilanesburg then? 2? I know it's no substitute for Kruger, but we won't be going to Kruger with a baby because of malaria. Madikwe is an option though. Would you say 3 days there would be overkill? The price I saw ($230) was for 2 people.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #614 on: February 17, 2016, 11:10:56 AM »
3 days in Pilansburg is too much
So how many would you recommend, or would you recommend driving all the way to Madikwe with a baby?

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« Reply #615 on: February 17, 2016, 11:31:15 AM »
So how many would you recommend, or would you recommend driving all the way to Madikwe with a baby?
if you combine Hartebeespoortdam, Sun City and Pilansberg 3 days is fine

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #616 on: February 17, 2016, 11:47:16 AM »
So how many would you recommend, or would you recommend driving all the way to Madikwe with a baby?

I have done half day trips to Pilansburg. I would say one night and the better part of two days is more than plenty.

I've never been to Madikwe. Perhaps you could fly to Gabarone? Flights look to be around $180

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #617 on: February 17, 2016, 11:55:19 AM »
Also on the way to Pilansburg look at the Lesedi cultural village which sounds hokie but was fun and interesting.  Lots of great stuff to do(and eat) in and around Joburg.  What is your itinerary so far?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #618 on: February 17, 2016, 12:01:07 PM »
I have done half day trips to Pilansburg. I would say one night and the better part of two days is more than plenty.

I've never been to Madikwe. Perhaps you could fly to Gabarone? Flights look to be around $180
Sample itinerary
Leave JNB in AM go to Lion park, for a few hours yeah , maybe Lesedi too
Continue to HartebeespoortDam, take cable car up (handgliding?) ,, snake park, elephant sanctuary
sleep there or in sun city (if you can get the lost city for cheap)
Check out sun city in the AM, probably be too cold for Water park
 ZipLine (http://www.zip2000.com/ longest in the world? not baby friendly ;-)
Go to Pilansberg on a "two"   day tour (its only one night)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #619 on: February 17, 2016, 12:05:10 PM »
I have done half day trips to Pilansburg. I would say one night and the better part of two days is more than plenty.

I've never been to Madikwe. Perhaps you could fly to Gabarone? Flights look to be around $180
But do you agree with Dawie that combining it with Hartebeespoortdam and Sun City would be a better idea?

I did look into flying into Gabarone. Flights from JNB-GBE-CPT is about $280 ($180 RT JNB-GBE-JNB), but then we'd need to get to CPT on our own. While it may save a few dollars, it would mean a stop in JNB as opposed to a non-stop flight. And that's all assuming I could convince DW to get on a turbo prop. Oh, and we'd need to pay for the baby since it's an international flight. Do you think it's still worth it?