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Kashrus Note According to link above, all meat is glatt however milk is NOT Chalav Israel.

Restaurants

NameTypeHoursContactLocation & Description
Avron's Place (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; F: 11am – 2:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 7610 Link
19 – 33 Regent Road - Oldest kosher meat restaurant in SA. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Prices rather reasonable. On Tuesdays there's a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). Offers takeaways and catering and packed Shabbat meals for visitors. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
The Press (Sea Point)
Meat
S – T: noon – late; F: 11am – 3pm; Sat: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
+27 (0)21 434 7724 Website
176 Main Road - Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap).
Coffee Time (Gardens)
Milk
M – T: 8am – 3:30pm; F: 8am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 461 8414
20 Breda Street - Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment. Lawn seating with views of Table Mountain. Breakfast, brunch or lunch. Menu includes scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap, fish bobotie with homemade chutney, tuna lasagne, sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. Early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. Gluten-free and sugar-free options. Offers catering. Proceeds support the Astra Centre.
Café Riteve (Gardens)
Milk
S – T: 8:30am – 5pm; F: 8:30am – 3pm
+27 (0)21 465 1594
Website
88 Hatfield Street - Located on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. Large and varied menu includes three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. Also sells range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. Offers catering, takeaways, no delivery. They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Meat & Pareve
S – T: 8:30am – 8pm; F: 8:30am – 4:30pm
+27 (0)21 439 3008
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174 Main Road - Meat and parev deli and bakery - next door and connected to The Press. Menu include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Specials every Wednesday and Friday (deals like a three-course meal for four for R120). Delivery is free in Sea Point. Bakery treats include carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Offers Shabbat meal orders.
Café B'tayavon @ Highlands House
Milk
021 461 1100
9 Gorge Rd, Highlands Estate - Snacks and Light Meals
Jean's Kitchen @ The Kaplan Centre
Milk
021 650 3064 info@jeanskitchen.co.za
The Kaplan Centre - University of Cape Town - Tea, coffee,
sandwiches, gourmet salads, falafel etc
Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls
Sea point is the main Jewish area.
Green and Sea Point Hebrew Congregation (Marais Road Shul)
Chabad


Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

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Major Activities
Name
Cost
Distance from CPT
Description and Notes
Boulders Beach
R17035 min• "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
• For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
Betty’s Bay
1.25 hoursAlso features African Penguins though less crowded than Boulders beach, though further.
Chapman's Peak Drive
R45/car45 min• Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
NOTE: You need Rand or an SA issued card to pay for the Chapman's Peak toll.
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
R360/pp1.5 hours• LONG but AMAZING drive
• almost a full day activity
Lions Head
• Hike - not difficult
• Paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated). Book ahead
Robben Island
Tours depart three times a day and take about 3.5 hours, consisting of a ferry trip to and from the island, and a tour of the various historical sites on the island that form part of the Robben Island Museum. These include the island graveyard, the disused lime quarry, Robert Sobukwe's house, the Bluestone quarry, the army and navy bunkers, and the maximum security prison. Nelson Mandela's cell is shown. Reviews are mixed
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
~R350• Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
• Cableway costs ~R350 rand pp - depends if morning or afternoon
• Can repel down
• 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
• repel for like 15 mins
• hike back up is 25 mins
• Closes 6pm
• BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill
Go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor. Views aren't great compared to Lion's Head and can be quite crowded at sunset.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route
long scenic drive

Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
$88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)2 hoursCan do in Gansbaii. Links:1, 2, 3

Sandboarding
Bring goggles!
Skydiving
$170 (prices might be outdated)
Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)

Hout Bay market

Kayaking at Hout Bay
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Amazing experience. Views may very but can often see Heaviside dolphins jumping right in front of you
Cheetah Outreach
Where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool. Website

Aquila Private Game Reserve

2 hoursPricey but quality accommodations for overnight stays. Good for people who aren't leaving Cape Town area but want to see wildlife. Some dismiss as a "glorified zoo"
Cango Wildlife Ranch

5 hours


Winelands
[Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
  • Franschoek
  • Kleine Dracken - Kosher
  • Backsberg - Kosher

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

NameTypeContactLocation & Description
Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 440-3160 Link
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel. Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Milk
+27 11 883-2265 Link
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196 - Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
Milk
Cholov Yisroel cafe
KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
+27 11 440 1402 Website
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192
Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.
Michelos (Glenhazel)
Milk
+27 11 885-1500 Link
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Meat
+27 11 885-1496 Website
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa - Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Milk
+27 11 728-2577 Link
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
Pie Works (Sandringham)
+27 11 485 2447 Website
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192 - Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.
The Deli Store (Sandton)
011-656-3142 / 4915  info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor - Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices. According to Google is "Permanently Closed".
So Sushi (Glenhazel)
Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
Milk
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request


Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #720 on: April 05, 2016, 03:03:08 PM »
In CPT, what's the most centrally located area to stay in NOT for shabbos? I was thinking of staying here which is located in/near De Waterkant. I read that is a nice area to be in during the week, plus that hotel is the best value for Marriott points in the area.

For shabbos we were thinking of staying at the Protea Sea Point to be in the eruv, but it's almost not worth it to use points there since the room is only $78 (or 15k points)/night.

The other questions I had is: Is it just worth it to stay in Sea Point the entire time (Wed-Sun) or split it up with 2 nights at each location?

Just for comparison, the Westin is not a good deal on points in July.

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« Reply #721 on: April 05, 2016, 03:10:27 PM »
Just for comparison, the Westin is not a good deal on points in July.

Nice hotel, though. Just avoid the hookers.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #722 on: April 05, 2016, 03:12:14 PM »
Nice hotel, though. Just avoid the hookers.
I wasn't really considering it, though I have no doubt it's a nice place. Any thoughts on the other other Protea or splitting time?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #723 on: April 05, 2016, 04:38:11 PM »
I wasn't really considering it, though I have no doubt it's a nice place. Any thoughts on the other other Protea or splitting time?
LOL
it's only a 15 min drive (w/o traffic) from V&A to Sea point
if being close to davening and food is important just stay  in seapoint
i'd probably still split ;-P

ps the westin is down the block from the Protea by the waterfront

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #724 on: April 05, 2016, 04:52:07 PM »
LOL
it's only a 15 min drive (w/o traffic) from V&A to Sea point
if being close to davening and food is important just stay  in seapoint
i'd probably still split ;-P

ps the westin is down the block from the Protea by the waterfront
By V&A do you mean Protea Hotel North Wharf Waterfront (the one I referenced)? In terms of food, it looks like the dairy restaurants are in Gardens anyway, not in Sea Point, so the Protea Hotel North Wharf Waterfront is closer to them anyway. If we do stay there, are many activities walkable, or will we still need to drive?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #725 on: April 05, 2016, 05:30:54 PM »
By V&A do you mean Protea Hotel North Wharf Waterfront (the one I referenced)? In terms of food, it looks like the dairy restaurants are in Gardens anyway, not in Sea Point, so the Protea Hotel North Wharf Waterfront is closer to them anyway. If we do stay there, are many activities walkable, or will we still need to drive?
the whole waterfront is walk able (including the boat to Robben island if you are so inclined)
 I havent; been to the Gardens restaurants (not like Sea point has so many choices... the kosher stores (or i should say the stores that have kosher aisles) are mainly in Sea point


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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #726 on: April 05, 2016, 05:42:05 PM »
the whole waterfront is walk able (including the boat to Robben island if you are so inclined)
 I havent; been to the Gardens restaurants (not like Sea point has so many choices... the kosher stores (or i should say the stores that have kosher aisles) are mainly in Sea point
Good to know. I guess we'll probably stay on the waterfront then for the first half and in Sea Point for the second half. I know there are more kosher options in Sea Point, but I don't care for delis so I'd want dairy. Is Robben Island worth? Is it an all day event? I was thinking about it.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #727 on: April 05, 2016, 06:02:10 PM »
Good to know. I guess we'll probably stay on the waterfront then for the first half and in Sea Point for the second half. I know there are more kosher options in Sea Point, but I don't care for delis so I'd want dairy. Is Robben Island worth? Is it an all day event? I was thinking about it.
never did it and personally dont care for it,
I did the boat from Hout bay to seal island... what a ride (with a 2 month old baby too) (wife wasn;t impressed {insert devil emoticon})

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #728 on: April 05, 2016, 06:10:22 PM »
never did it and personally dont care for it,
I did the boat from Hout bay to seal island... what a ride (with a 2 month old baby too) (wife wasn;t impressed {insert devil emoticon})
What does "what a ride" mean? Bad? Choppy? I'm prone to sea sickness so I would avoid it. We're thinking of going to Cape Point (ride the funicular), Table Mountain (take the cable car), and explore the waterfront. Do you think we'll have time for more from Wednesday at around noon to Sunday morning (with a 1:30pm flight)?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #729 on: April 06, 2016, 10:35:07 AM »
What does "what a ride" mean? Bad? Choppy? I'm prone to sea sickness so I would avoid it. We're thinking of going to Cape Point (ride the funicular), Table Mountain (take the cable car), and explore the waterfront. Do you think we'll have time for more from Wednesday at around noon to Sunday morning (with a 1:30pm flight)?
depends on the day, but in July in the south Atlantic.... yes, what a ride means choppy and sea sick
yes,  you should have time for more
Boulder Bay and the penguins is a must (maybe on the way up from Cape Point) shabbos comes in about 530pm

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« Reply #730 on: April 06, 2016, 10:50:01 AM »
depends on the day, but in July in the south Atlantic.... yes, what a ride means choppy and sea sick
yes,  you should have time for more
Boulder Bay and the penguins is a must (maybe on the way up from Cape Point) shabbos comes in about 530pm
Oh right, I forgot about the penguins. It makes sense to go to Boulder Beach on the way back from Cape Point. I was thinking of going there on Thursday. Wednesday afternoon we'll walk around the waterfont. Friday do Table Mountian and switch hotels. Sunday morning (we'd want to be at the airport by 11:30 to return the car and check in for a 1:30pm flight) will be basically just getting ready to go, maybe walk around Seat Point some more to take the pictures we couldn't take while walking around on Shabbos. Does that make sense? Will we have extra time on Friday? Any recommendations of what to do then?

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« Reply #731 on: April 06, 2016, 01:42:32 PM »
Oh right, I forgot about the penguins. It makes sense to go to Boulder Beach on the way back from Cape Point. I was thinking of going there on Thursday. Wednesday afternoon we'll walk around the waterfont. Friday do Table Mountian and switch hotels. Sunday morning (we'd want to be at the airport by 11:30 to return the car and check in for a 1:30pm flight) will be basically just getting ready to go, maybe walk around Seat Point some more to take the pictures we couldn't take while walking around on Shabbos. Does that make sense? Will we have extra time on Friday? Any recommendations of what to do then?
Possibly extra time on Friday, with table mtn, you may have time for things like the Jewish Museum, Groote Schuur, Bo-Kaap (none of which is a "must" see) (Kirstenbosch wont be in bloom so not nogea)
Keep in mind also that if there is bad weather (a possiblity in July in CPT, that the cable car will be closed) maybe plan on doing it Wed. with friday as an alternate and do VA on friday with some other things. Hout Bay fish market (Mariner's Wharf) perhaps lekovod shabbos

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #732 on: April 06, 2016, 01:56:59 PM »
Why bother with 2 hotels. just stay in sea point. Its less 10 minutes away.  There is Avrons also I'm pretty sure there is prepared foods at the three grocery stores. The V&A waterfront is not much more than a mall which you can visit for a couple of hours if the weather is bad. In July the weather can be warm and sunny or it can be a howling gale. Have a backup plan.  Keep in mind that weather might be different on the False Bay. I trust you plan on going on the wine route. There are  2 kosher wineries and a cheesery that has kosher cheese. 

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« Reply #733 on: April 06, 2016, 01:58:58 PM »
Possibly extra time on Friday, with table mtn, you may have time for things like the Jewish Museum, Groote Schuur, Bo-Kaap (none of which is a "must" see) (Kirstenbosch wont be in bloom so not nogea)
Keep in mind also that if there is bad weather (a possiblity in July in CPT, that the cable car will be closed) maybe plan on doing it Wed. with friday as an alternate and do VA on friday with some other things. Hout Bay fish market (Mariner's Wharf) perhaps lekovod shabbos
Good point about the weather. I do plan on keeping the schedule flexible because of that. I'd switch Wed and Fri in a heartbeat if that's how the weather worked out. I was thinking of the Jewish Museum, but they close early on Friday obviously. I'd have to see about the fish market and the other suggestions. Thanks for them!

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #734 on: April 06, 2016, 02:15:18 PM »
Why bother with 2 hotels. just stay in sea point. Its less 10 minutes away.  There is Avrons also I'm pretty sure there is prepared foods at the three grocery stores. The V&A waterfront is not much more than a mall which you can visit for a couple of hours if the weather is bad. In July the weather can be warm and sunny or it can be a howling gale. Have a backup plan.  Keep in mind that weather might be different on the False Bay. I trust you plan on going on the wine route. There are  2 kosher wineries and a cheesery that has kosher cheese.
The main reason I was considering 2 hotels is because the one on the waterfront is bigger (a 1 bedroom apt vs a standard room), it's a better deal for points (it's a lot more expensive for cash but the same number of points), and it's in a nice area. There's really nothing to do there besides a mall? I find that hard to believe.

I did hear that there was prepared food at the stores, but we hope to go to the restaurants as well. Plus I'd imagine there's not too much dairy prepared food, and I don't eat meat.

I'm aware the weather may be bad, so we'll have alternate plans just in case.  I found this site: http://www.capetown.travel/blog/entry/100-things-to-do-in-winter. Are there any things that a worth seeing around the bay?

We don't plan on going to the wineries. Neither I nor DW are into wine, so we don't see the point in going. Plus I've been to the wineries in Napa. If we had more time though I'd consider it though.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #735 on: April 06, 2016, 04:41:48 PM »
The main reason I was considering 2 hotels is because the one on the waterfront is bigger (a 1 bedroom apt vs a standard room), it's a better deal for points (it's a lot more expensive for cash but the same number of points), and it's in a nice area. There's really nothing to do there besides a mall? I find that hard to believe.

I did hear that there was prepared food at the stores, but we hope to go to the restaurants as well. Plus I'd imagine there's not too much dairy prepared food, and I don't eat meat.

I'm aware the weather may be bad, so we'll have alternate plans just in case.  I found this site: http://www.capetown.travel/blog/entry/100-things-to-do-in-winter. Are there any things that a worth seeing around the bay?

We don't plan on going to the wineries. Neither I nor DW are into wine, so we don't see the point in going. Plus I've been to the wineries in Napa. If we had more time though I'd consider it though.
in season the wine route is one of the most beautiful places  in the world, I probably wouldn;t bother in July, i agree with your choice
Thats a great list they put together
some are LOL moments M(j)uizenberg Tour...

49. GORDON'S BAY WINTER WONDERLAND

52. JUMPING SHARKS AKA AIR JAWS
Shark Cages!!

55. BICYCLE TOUR THROUGH A TOWNSHIP- That should be fun, Imagine a bike ride though South Central LA

There should be plenty in the way of Parve and Milky Prepared Food, not CY though in PicknPay and Checkers





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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #736 on: April 06, 2016, 04:44:33 PM »
in season the wine route is one of the most beautiful places  in the world, I probably wouldn;t bother in July, i agree with your choice
Thats a great list they put together
some are LOL moments M(j)uizenberg Tour...

49. GORDON'S BAY WINTER WONDERLAND

52. JUMPING SHARKS AKA AIR JAWS
Shark Cages!!

55. BICYCLE TOUR THROUGH A TOWNSHIP- That should be fun, Imagine a bike ride though South Central LA

There should be plenty in the way of Parve and Milky Prepared Food, not CY though in PicknPay and Checkers
I don't do chalav yisrael, so that's fine with me. Good to know though. I can skip a ride through South Central, thank you very much. :)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #737 on: April 06, 2016, 04:48:26 PM »
I don't do chalav yisrael, so that's fine with me. Good to know though. I can skip a ride through South Central, thank you very much. :)
it's with a guide ...(hopefully armed?)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #738 on: April 06, 2016, 04:52:42 PM »
it's with a guide ...(hopefully armed?)
Maybe. Is that what a tour of Soweto is like also?

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« Reply #739 on: April 06, 2016, 05:48:12 PM »
Maybe. Is that what a tour of Soweto is like also?
yes , but not on a bike