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UPDATED: http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp


Restaurants


Avron's Place (Sea Point)
The longest running kosher meat restaurant in South Africa, Avron’s Place on Sea Point’s Regent Road is a very popular choice amongst Cape Town’s Orthodox Jewish community. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, which is supervised by the Beth Din, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Though prices are generally rather reasonable (particularly by kosher food standards), Avron’s drops costs further on Tuesdays with a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). The restaurant also does takeaways and catering for functions and will gladly pack Shabbat meals for visitors to Cape Town. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; Friday: 11am – 2:30pm
19 – 33 Regent Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 7610
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/avrons-place-sea-point/menu.


The Press (Sea Point) Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap)


Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: noon – late Friday: 11am – 3pm Sat night: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
176 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 434 7724



Coffee Time (Gardens)
Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment, this kosher milchik coffee shop is a fine option for a relaxing breakfast, brunch or lunch on a sunny day. Guests can sit outside on the lawn while enjoying stunning views of Table Mountain and tucking into anything from a scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap or fish bobotie with homemade chutney to tuna lasagne, a sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. The eatery runs an early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. For those will allergies, there are gluten-free and sugar-free options, and Coffee Time caters for functions – think weddings, bat/bar mitzvahs or birthdays – too. As the cherry on the kosher cake, all proceeds from the restaurant go to supporting the Astra Centre, which aims to provide employment for those with mental illnesses and special needs, so diners can rest assured their meal is helping out a good cause.
Opening Hours: Monday – Thursday: 8am – 3:30pm; Friday: 8am – 3pm
20 Breda Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 461 8414


Café Riteve (Gardens)
This charming milchik café, which was founded in 2000, is conveniently located right in the heart of town on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. The menu is large and varied and includes items like a three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. For the thirsty, the eatery also sells a range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. It caters for special occasions and offers takeaways, but unfortunately doesn’t deliver; though, considering that the interior is tastefully adorned and the ambience inviting, Jewish diners will likely want to spend some time at the café in any case.They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 5pm; Friday: 8:30am – 3pm
88 Hatfield Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 465 1594
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/cafe-riteve-gardens/menu.


Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Started by Goldie Wener back in 1992, this popular kosher food spot has evolved over time from a small home business to include a meat and parev deli, a sit-down diner and a bakery. The simple but flavourful fare is still made from Goldie’s grandmother’s recipes, and options include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Plus, there are specials every Wednesday and Friday (these change weekly but you can look forward to deals like a three-course meal for four for R120) and there’s also a very affordable seniors menu for elderly individuals living in and around the area (delivery is free in Sea Point). The bakery stocks delectable treats like carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Kosher Cape Town dwellers can also place orders for Shabbat meals if they don’t have the time to prepare the dishes themselves.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 8pm; Friday: 8:30am – 4:30pm
174 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 3008
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/goldies-deli-sea-point/menu.



Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
Cab -
Executive Bus -
Public Bus -
Train -

Major Activities
Boulders Beach
   - For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
    - 35 mins from CPT
    - Can hop fence
    - "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
Betty’s Bay
    - a less crowded, and not as known, boulders beach with penguins
Chapman's Peak Drive
   - Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
    - 45 rand per car
    - 45 mins from CPT
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
    - LONG but AMAZING drive
    - almost a full day activity
    - 135 rand pp
    - 1.5 hours from CPT
Lions Head (Hike - not difficult)
    - paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated)
        - BOOK AHEAD
Robben Island
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
    - Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
    - Can repel down
        - 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
            - repel for like 15 mins
            - hike back up is 25 mins
    - Chairlift costs 255 rand pp
    - Closes 6pm
    - BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill (go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route - long scenic drive
Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
  - Can do so in Gansbaii
  - $88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)
  - 2 hour drive from CPT
  - Links:1, 2, 3
Sandboarding
   - Bring goggles!
Skydiving
   - Price: $170 (prices might be outdated)
   - Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)
Hout Bay market
Cango Wildlife Ranch
Cheetah outreach
    - where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool
Winelands : [Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
      - Franschoek
      - Kosher wineries:
          - Kleine Dracken
          - backsberg

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel, Phone: +27 11 440-3160.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/corner-cafe-glenhazel


Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 883-2265.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/deejays-deli-morningside.


Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
cholov Yisroel cafe

KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 440 1402.
http://www.kosherworld.co.za/Mivami.aspx & http://www.kosherworld.co.za/ChopandWok.aspx.


Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.

Michelos (Glenhazel)
Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1500.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/michelos-pizzeria-glenhazel/menu.


Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1496.
https://www.yumbi.com/menu/stores-1285/view/Nandos-Kosher.


Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 728-2577.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/next-door-norwood.


Pie Works (Sandringham)
Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. +27 11 485 2447.
http://www.thepieworks.co.za/.


RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.

The Deli Store (Sandton)
Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices.
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor, Phone: 011-656-3142 / 4915.
Email: info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/.


So Sushi (Glenhazel)

Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #930 on: January 25, 2017, 02:14:06 AM »
What's the Shabbos/shul  atmosphere in CPT? Black pants/white shirt for Shabbos, or suit etc (I don't want to shlep, yet I don't want to feel out of place either)?
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You definitely do not need a suit. South Africa atmosphere is very casual.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #931 on: January 25, 2017, 02:15:04 AM »
+1 esp. in CPT
Drive slower there too

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #932 on: January 25, 2017, 02:15:28 AM »
You definitely do not need a suit. South Africa atmosphere is very casual.
Though you also won't be out of place in a suit.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #933 on: January 25, 2017, 06:29:05 AM »
+1 esp. in CPT
Drive slower there too

Yea, in Cape Town they have cameras with speeding fines, got a text message 2 weeks ago " Dear *licenseplatenumber* exceeded the maximum speed limit at 111km/h with date time and location. Please drive safely.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #934 on: January 25, 2017, 06:48:01 AM »
No regular communal meals. Avron's restaurant does have such meals occasionally but not often. Brit Medrash Morasha have a form http://www.morasha.co.za/visitors/join-a-family-for-shabbat/  to complete and they'll match you up for Shabbat meals.

Although somebody who comes from yeshivish/heimish circles from a place like Monsey might not feel comfortable by the families they match you, and even davening in the shuls - it's not the crowd one would be used to. Probably Ohr Somayach or Chabad would be the best place to daven in Sea Point (they are right next to each other). All the shuls have a bracha (kiddush in the morning) where you can wash, although Ohr Somayach probably would be the best for a visitor. (Ohr Somayach also has shalosh seudos, where women are also invited, sitting at a separate table.

At any rate, one can stock up at the Checkers supermarket, at the back there is a separate bakery, fish shop, butchery, and Shwarma/Falafel bar. One can easily stock up on challah, rotisserie Chicken, meats, fried fish, etc. for and it's inexpensive. (And don't forget to checkout the freezer with the ice scream.)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #935 on: February 14, 2017, 07:22:20 PM »
i'll take the quick version
So here goes...

Sunday-Monday:
-JFK-JNB-VFA in J (80k UA PP)
-Zimbabwean side of the falls
-Victoria Falls Safari Lodge (Approx. $300 - Not really worth it IMO)

Tuesday:
-Zambian side of the falls
-LVI-JNB in Y (4k + $44 Avios PP)
-Kosherworld delivered food to airport and picked up SIM
-JNB-MQP in Y (Approx. $80 PP - Should have driven in hindsight)
-Rented car at MQP
-Protea Nelspruit (7.5k Marriott)

Wednesday:
-Entered KNP through Malelane Gate and drove up to Skukuza airport with some detours
-Returned car at SZK
-Transferred to Notten's Bush Camp for 2 nights ($750 per night)

Thursday:
-Notten's Bush Camp

Friday:
-Transfer to SZK after morning game drive
-SZK-CPT in Y (Approx. $250 PP)
-Protea Sea Point for 2 nights (15k Marriott per night)
-Sahbbos food from Goldie's Deli (delivered to hotel)

Shabbos:
-Davend at Chabad, ate at hotel
-Sea Point Promenade

Sunday:
-Transferred to African Pride 15 On Orange Hotel for 2 nights (20k Marriott per night)
-Hout Bay / Chapman's Peak / Cape of Good hope / Cape Point / Boulder's Beach
-Dinner at Avron's Place

Monday:
-Breakfast at Coffee Time
-Table Mountain
-Robben Island
-V&A Waterfront
-Sunset at Signal Hill

Tuesday:
-CPT-JNB-DKR-IAD-LGA in J (80k UA PP)
-10 Hour layover in JNB
-Carlton Center
-Lunch at SoSushi
-Soweto tour

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #936 on: February 14, 2017, 07:29:36 PM »
Wow, that certainly was the quick version! Changes of a full TR? I'd love to read it (as I'm sure many others would).  :)

Besides for the Victoria Falls Safari Lodge, do you think you would make any changes in hindsight? Spend longer at one place, shorter in another or skip it entirely? Seems like a lot of moving involved for the amount of time you were in Africa.

Did you see a lot of animals in Kruger? Was the Bush Camp you stayed at worth it?

Did you intentionally want to spend shabbos davening at chabad (with other options around) and with meals in your room? Didn't chabad have a brocha after davening for lunch? Was there a reason you didn't go to Morasha just up the block from the Protea (we stayed there too and it was a 2 min walk)?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #937 on: February 14, 2017, 08:00:41 PM »
So here goes...

Great mini-TR, lots of good memories from there.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #938 on: February 14, 2017, 08:37:21 PM »
Wow, that certainly was the quick version! Changes of a full TR? I'd love to read it (as I'm sure many others would).  :)
Thanks, but I don't think it's going to happen...
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Besides for the Victoria Falls Safari Lodge, do you think you would make any changes in hindsight? Spend longer at one place, shorter in another or skip it entirely? Seems like a lot of moving involved for the amount of time you were in Africa.
I'd say 2 weeks would have been better, but we only had 10 days. I guess removing Victoria Falls would have made for the perfect amount of time for Kruger and would have removed some travel, but I didn't really feel like the trip was rushed.

On a side note; Having visited Iguazu I was expecting a bit more from Vic Falls. IMO, Iguazu beats it on pretty much everything.
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Did you see a lot of animals in Kruger? Was the Bush Camp you stayed at worth it?
"A lot" is relative, but we saw Leopard (on each of the 4 game drives), Elephant, Rhino, Buffalo, Hyena (Even had one in camp at night), Giraffe, Zebra, several types of Impala, Warthog, lots pf beautiful bids, and probably some more I don't recall ATM.

It's obviously a lot of money for the Lodge, but we felt it was worth every penny. While self driving in Kruger is wonderful, when you're short in time, the open top game drives with amazing guides and trackers and the ability to off-road is unbeatable IMO.
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Did you intentionally want to spend shabbos davening at chabad (with other options around) and with meals in your room? Didn't chabad have a brocha after davening for lunch? Was there a reason you didn't go to Morasha just up the block from the Protea (we stayed there too and it was a 2 min walk)?
We don't know anyone in Cape Town and eating at someone's house we don't know isn't our thing.

Chabad is just 2 minutes away from Morasha and I just didn't feel like filling out the visitor form. They did have a kiddush/brocha and we stayed for a bit.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #939 on: February 15, 2017, 10:16:05 AM »
So here goes...

Sunday-Monday:
-JFK-JNB-VFA in J (80k UA PP)
-Zimbabwean side of the falls
-Victoria Falls Safari Lodge (Approx. $300 - Not really worth it IMO)

Tuesday:
-Zambian side of the falls
-LVI-JNB in Y (4k + $44 Avios PP)
-Kosherworld delivered food to airport and picked up SIM
-JNB-MQP in Y (Approx. $80 PP - Should have driven in hindsight)
-Rented car at MQP
-Protea Nelspruit (7.5k Marriott)

Wednesday:
-Entered KNP through Malelane Gate and drove up to Skukuza airport with some detours
-Returned car at SZK
-Transferred to Notten's Bush Camp for 2 nights ($750 per night)

Thursday:
-Notten's Bush Camp

Friday:
-Transfer to SZK after morning game drive
-SZK-CPT in Y (Approx. $250 PP)
-Protea Sea Point for 2 nights (15k Marriott per night)
-Sahbbos food from Goldie's Deli (delivered to hotel)

Shabbos:
-Davend at Chabad, ate at hotel
-Sea Point Promenade

Sunday:
-Transferred to African Pride 15 On Orange Hotel for 2 nights (20k Marriott per night)
-Hout Bay / Chapman's Peak / Cape of Good hope / Cape Point / Boulder's Beach
-Dinner at Avron's Place

Monday:
-Breakfast at Coffee Time
-Table Mountain
-Robben Island
-V&A Waterfront
-Sunset at Signal Hill

Tuesday:
-CPT-JNB-DKR-IAD-LGA in J (80k UA PP)
-10 Hour layover in JNB
-Carlton Center
-Lunch at SoSushi
-Soweto tour
O M G wow you absolutely nailed it
alot of planning must have gone into the trip and it looks like you got the full experience
Totally agree about VF Safari lodge, i stay in the Kingdom , not because it's good but because of the location
VF has it's  advantages over Igauzu but i'd take Igauzu any day (Devils Pool, sunset cruise, actual height, gorge, zipline, bungee rafting etc. are some of the advantages)
what did you think of the Protea by KNP ? functional?
Location of the Marriott 15 On Orange Hotel is really good, was it decent?
I'll be handing out this itinerary!! i'm very impressed


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« Reply #940 on: February 15, 2017, 10:55:41 AM »
O M G wow you absolutely nailed it
alot of planning must have gone into the trip and it looks like you got the full experience
Thanks! Indeed I put a LOT of planing into this trip.
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Totally agree about VF Safari lodge, i stay in the Kingdom , not because it's good but because of the location
VF has it's  advantages over Igauzu but i'd take Igauzu any day (Devils Pool, sunset cruise, actual height, gorge, zipline, bungee rafting etc. are some of the advantages)
I hear your points about Vic over Iguazu, but like you said I'd take Iguazu any day. Devil's pool wasn't available now (high season) and sunset cruise didn't seem too exciting to me (We actually took the rafting trip in Iguazu upstream of the falls and it was very nice as we got relatively close to the falls). I'm slightly afraid of heights so no zipline and bungee for me...
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what did you think of the Protea by KNP ? functional?
We were in the Protea in Nelspruit which is your typical 3-3.5 star hotel. The Protea at Kruger gate sounds like a much nicer property and I was actually booked there, but the location made me switch to the one in Nelspruit. It would have meant driving 1.5-2 hours after dark to get to the hotel and also entering the park the next day at the same place where I was returning my car meaning I would drive the same roads twice. Not the end of the world, but I'd rather use that one self drive to cover more ground.
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Location of the Marriott 15 On Orange Hotel is really good, was it decent?
15 On Orange is a very nice modern hotel. Their smallest room is 400+ Sq. Ft. We were upgraded (Marriott Gold) to a deluxe room 750+ Sq. Ft. Excellent point value (6.6k SPG).
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I'll be handing out this itinerary!! i'm very impressed
You do that, and thanks  :)

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« Reply #941 on: April 28, 2017, 12:45:49 PM »
Can kosherworld prepare for you prepacked meals like pom meals?

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #942 on: April 28, 2017, 12:48:43 PM »
Can kosherworld prepare for you prepacked meals like pom meals?
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« Reply #943 on: April 30, 2017, 06:50:40 PM »
I will be in Victoria Falls for 1 1/2 days, is it better to do a whole day safari to Chobe or a half day and do the other activities in and around Victoria falls?

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« Reply #944 on: May 01, 2017, 10:47:11 AM »
I will be in Victoria Falls for 1 1/2 days, is it better to do a whole day safari to Chobe or a half day and do the other activities in and around Victoria falls?

Chobe is worth it, but the best time to go is July-September, and game viewing is best at sunset and sunrise times.
Whitewater Rafting on the Zambezi is another activity which you can do.