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UPDATED: http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/ct_kosher.asp


Restaurants


Avron's Place (Sea Point)
The longest running kosher meat restaurant in South Africa, Avron’s Place on Sea Point’s Regent Road is a very popular choice amongst Cape Town’s Orthodox Jewish community. The humbly adorned, family-friendly eatery, which is supervised by the Beth Din, serves a wide variety of dishes, including beef ribs, burgers, mixed grills, boerewors, Cape lamb curry, vegetarian platters, pastas and sushi. Though prices are generally rather reasonable (particularly by kosher food standards), Avron’s drops costs further on Tuesdays with a special on its beef burger and chips (R49 instead of the usual R59). The restaurant also does takeaways and catering for functions and will gladly pack Shabbat meals for visitors to Cape Town. For the Sephardim the meat is Bet Yosef. But check to make sure.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 11am – 3pm; 5pm – 10pm; Friday: 11am – 2:30pm
19 – 33 Regent Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 7610
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/avrons-place-sea-point/menu.


The Press (Sea Point) Restaurant and Bar (many craft beers on tap)


Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: noon – late Friday: 11am – 3pm Sat night: 1 hour after Shabbat till late
176 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 434 7724



Coffee Time (Gardens)
Set in an old house in a lush, garden environment, this kosher milchik coffee shop is a fine option for a relaxing breakfast, brunch or lunch on a sunny day. Guests can sit outside on the lawn while enjoying stunning views of Table Mountain and tucking into anything from a scrambled egg, salmon and humus wrap or fish bobotie with homemade chutney to tuna lasagne, a sandwich, salad, quiche or smoothie. The eatery runs an early-morning special between 8am and 11am (a combo of two eggs, grilled tomato and mushrooms goes for R25) and also serves a delicious, and incredibly popular, buffet lunch every Wednesday between 12:30pm and 2:30pm. For those will allergies, there are gluten-free and sugar-free options, and Coffee Time caters for functions – think weddings, bat/bar mitzvahs or birthdays – too. As the cherry on the kosher cake, all proceeds from the restaurant go to supporting the Astra Centre, which aims to provide employment for those with mental illnesses and special needs, so diners can rest assured their meal is helping out a good cause.
Opening Hours: Monday – Thursday: 8am – 3:30pm; Friday: 8am – 3pm
20 Breda Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 461 8414


Café Riteve (Gardens)
This charming milchik café, which was founded in 2000, is conveniently located right in the heart of town on a piazza that’s part of the same centre as the historical Gardens Shul, the South African Jewish Museum, the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Jacob Gitlin Library. The menu is large and varied and includes items like a three-egg omelette, sushi salad, grilled hake, falafel with dukkah wedges and humus, tuna and mushroom cannelloni, smoked salmon and cream cheese sandwich and chocolate ganache-filled croissant. For the thirsty, the eatery also sells a range of shakes and juices as well as kosher wine and liquors. It caters for special occasions and offers takeaways, but unfortunately doesn’t deliver; though, considering that the interior is tastefully adorned and the ambience inviting, Jewish diners will likely want to spend some time at the café in any case.They had some CY, just ask. The earlier you go the more likely the have.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 5pm; Friday: 8:30am – 3pm
88 Hatfield Street | Gardens | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 465 1594
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/cafe-riteve-gardens/menu.


Goldies Deli and Diner (Sea Point)
Started by Goldie Wener back in 1992, this popular kosher food spot has evolved over time from a small home business to include a meat and parev deli, a sit-down diner and a bakery. The simple but flavourful fare is still made from Goldie’s grandmother’s recipes, and options include burgers, steak rolls, schwarmas, bagels, salads, fish cakes, breakfast plates and more. Plus, there are specials every Wednesday and Friday (these change weekly but you can look forward to deals like a three-course meal for four for R120) and there’s also a very affordable seniors menu for elderly individuals living in and around the area (delivery is free in Sea Point). The bakery stocks delectable treats like carrot cake, cinnamon twists, chocolate brownies, doughnuts, cupcakes, apple crumble, croissants and teiglach. Kosher Cape Town dwellers can also place orders for Shabbat meals if they don’t have the time to prepare the dishes themselves.
Opening Hours: Sunday – Thursday: 8:30am – 8pm; Friday: 8:30am – 4:30pm
174 Main Road | Sea Point | Cape Town | +27 (0)21 439 3008
https://www.zomato.com/capetown/goldies-deli-sea-point/menu.



Baskin Robbins @ Mojo Market (Sea Point)
Note: This is the only kosher B & R
All ice creams, ice cream cones, milkshakes and waffles are Kosher, milchik.
The following topping ONLY are kosher: Crushed Almonds, Crushed Cashews, Fudge, Mini Astros, Mint Crunch
NB: Cakes are NOT KOSHER

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Checkers Sea Point- 76 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.
Spar Sea Point - 96 Regent Road - They have a large selection of kosher products including a kosher take out and bakery.

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)
Protea Sea Point

Airport Transfer Options
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Major Activities
Boulders Beach
   - For budget travelers, take the train to Simonstown and from there a cab to Boulders beach - R20.
    - 35 mins from CPT
    - Can hop fence
    - "I found that there were two different entrances, boardwalk and beach. The boardwalk has a higher density of penguins but if you want a better experience, I recommend visiting the beach side- especially at low tide. Because of the tide I was able to walk past the few dozen folks on the beach, climb under and over some boulders, and encounter effectively a different private beach- with penguins!!"
Betty’s Bay
    - a less crowded, and not as known, boulders beach with penguins
Chapman's Peak Drive
   - Beautiful scenery, you have the mountain on one side and the ocean on the other side, great pics, great to make a BBQ come during daylight hours.
    - 45 rand per car
    - 45 mins from CPT
Cape of Good Hope/Cape Point
    - LONG but AMAZING drive
    - almost a full day activity
    - 135 rand pp
    - 1.5 hours from CPT
Lions Head (Hike - not difficult)
    - paragliding - around $85 (prices might be outdated)
        - BOOK AHEAD
Robben Island
Table Mountain (Cable car or hike)
    - Follow on Twitter for updates on if open or closed
    - Can repel down
        - 895 rand pp (prices might be outdated)
            - repel for like 15 mins
            - hike back up is 25 mins
    - Chairlift costs 255 rand pp
    - Closes 6pm
    - BOOK IN ADVANCE
Signal Hill (go there for a sunset with bit more a "local" flavor.
V & A Waterfront
The Garden Route - long scenic drive
Kirstenbosch Gardens
Shark Diving
  - Can do so in Gansbaii
  - $88 +$34 for video (prices might be outdated)
  - 2 hour drive from CPT
  - Links:1, 2, 3
Sandboarding
   - Bring goggles!
Skydiving
   - Price: $170 (prices might be outdated)
   - Cheaper
Quad Biking (ATVs)
Hout Bay market
Cango Wildlife Ranch
Cheetah outreach
    - where you can go and pet cheetahs and other animals super cool
Winelands : [Likely way more then listed but those are the few I remember]
(Might be worthwhile to make a trip to the winelands, even if one does not enjoy wine, for the scenery. Only about an hour or two from CPT)
      - Franschoek
      - Kosher wineries:
          - Kleine Dracken
          - backsberg

Johannesburg

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Restaurants
http://www.uos.co.za/kashrut/restaurants.asp

http://yeahthatskosher.com/2013/04/kosher-restaurants-travel-advice-for-johannesburg-south-africa-joberg/

Map of Kosher Johannesburg

Corner Cafe (Glenhazel)
Corner Café is the best place to go (or maybe the only) for kosher gluten free muffins. I’m told they’re very good. They also have great breakfasts and pastas, but I usually stick with a toasted cheese and chips.
Corner of Queens square and cross road in Glenhazel, Phone: +27 11 440-3160.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/corner-cafe-glenhazel


Dee-Jays (Sandton)
Dee-Jays provides casual dairy food that is perfect for a breakfast out with the family. Their fishballs are really good and if you need a cake in the Sandton area, they’re the place to go.
Morningview Shopping Centre, 100 South Road, 2196, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 883-2265.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/deejays-deli-morningside.


Market Cafe (Norood Mall)
cholov Yisroel cafe

KosherWorld, Mi Vami Kosher and Chop N Wok (Glenhazel)
1 Long Avenue, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 440 1402.
http://www.kosherworld.co.za/Mivami.aspx & http://www.kosherworld.co.za/ChopandWok.aspx.


Gelatisimo (Glenhazel)
Across the road from Kosher World, authentic Italian gelato. Chalav Yisroel. Absolutely fantastic.

Michelos (Glenhazel)
Michelos is the second best pizza restaurant. They are very centrally located (in the Jewish area of Glenhazel) and their food is nice. Never go there the night after Pesach because you’ll wait hours but most other times are good, plus they serve chalav yisrael.
17 Northfield Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1500.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/michelos-pizzeria-glenhazel/menu.


Nandos Kosher (Savoy)
Nandos is a large chain of Portuguese chicken restaurants, but there is only one kosher Nandos in South Africa, so be aware that you can’t step into any of them! They serve top notch chicken but be sure to also try their beef burger (and order extra sauce).
553 Louis Botha Ave, Savoy, Johannesburg, 2090, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 885-1496.
https://www.yumbi.com/menu/stores-1285/view/Nandos-Kosher.


Next Door "Non-CY" (Norwood)
Next Door is rated as a top restaurant in Johannesburg, kosher and not, so you know it must be pretty good. It is usually full so booking is highly recommended. While their sushi may not be top class, their pizzas certainly are and, if you’re around in Summer, definitely try their fish braai (barbeque in South African).
80 Grant Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. Phone: +27 11 728-2577.
https://www.zomato.com/johannesburg/next-door-norwood.


Pie Works (Sandringham)
Their pies (clearly) are the best kosher pies in the country and are perfect if you want to buy some to take home and reheat. Their burgers are delicious and the have a milk side with pizza that is really good. They’re situated on what is known as the Kosher Strip, so any Jew will be able to direct you.
74 George Ave, Johannesburg, 2192, South Africa. +27 11 485 2447.
http://www.thepieworks.co.za/.


RTG "Ready to Go" (Norwood)
A fast food place next door to ... Next Door. While they do offer steak and a Chinese menu, the focus is their extensive burger and hot dog menu.

The Deli Store (Sandton)
Reviewed in CBS's TR, as having excellent food for very low prices.
Shop 52, (opposite Woolworths) Morning Glen Shopping Mall Cnr Bowling & Kelvin Road Gallo Manor, Phone: 011-656-3142 / 4915.
Email: info@thedelistore.co.za, http://thedelistore.co.za/menus/main-menu/.


So Sushi (Glenhazel)

Jozi Blue (Glenhazel)
They have some items Cholov Yisroel, which they will serve on disposables on request

Bakeries, Groceries & Ice Cream
Kosher World - http://www.kosherworld.co.za/

Shuls

Hotels with Points near a Shul (Walking Minutes)

Airport Transfer Options
Cab - Uber
Executive Bus - Shuttle from HLA airport to anywhere in Sandton for R80 per person.
Public Bus -
Train - Gautrain from JNB airport is R135-155 depending on destination. Must purchase gold card before for R13.

Major Activities
Apartheid Museum
Flea Market
Gold Reef City - amusement park, along with other African themed attractions (tribal dancing, old "gold mine tour")
Lion Park - see lions from your car up close, pet lion cubs.
Monte Casino - Casino and shopping mall, with cool "outdoor" Tuscan style
Soweto Tour
Pilanesberg Safari- If you can't make it to Kruger for malaria, time or other concerns,  this is a much smaller park with less wildlife, and not as good of an experience, but definitely well worth it. About 2 hours out of Joburg, it can be done in your own vehicle, but will be a lot better with a guided game drive.
Sun City Right outside of Pilansberg
Elephant & Monkey Sanctuary- About an hour out of Joburg. Get close to elephants, touch, feed and ride them. The monkey sanctuary has a massive enclosure with hundreds of various monkeys and lemurs. No feeding or touching, unless one jumps on you. If you do go to Pilansberg, this can be done on the way.

Kruger National Park

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Tour Options

Major Activities

Near Kruger:

The Panoramic Route includes a half dozen waterfalls; Lisbon, Horseshoe, Bridal Vail, Mac Mac, Sabie and others; The Potholes, G-d's Window, Wonder View, The Pinnacle, The Three Rondawels and views of the stunning Blyde River Canyon (third largest canyon in the world).

AJK SA trip route planning - forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg669659#msg669659.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1275 on: July 31, 2018, 12:19:08 AM »
yup! I returned  a car last week in Durben. When I brought it in I noticed he circled that I returned it 7/8 I told him to change it to 8/8, (he first did it on my copy, I said on your too)
And now I see I was charged $12
I called they said they called the gas station at the airport and since I only filled up $10 it must be that it wasn't returned on full!
Going to dispute this charge.
Looks like an ongoing scam, they make more profit than from rentals, playing the gas fill up trick, $12 x ?? is serious money.  By the way this happened to me in Argentina .
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1276 on: July 31, 2018, 04:03:35 AM »


I have done the drive from JNB to Kruger, but I've only done it via the Panoramic Route on the return from Kruger to JNB. I would highly recommend it -  The Blyde River Canyon at the Three Rondawels viewing point is one of my favorite places in the world. However it all depends on how comfortable you are making the drive in a foreign country driving on the other side of the road on roads that are not always in the best shape. (Most of the way is highway). To do the drive and make all the stops you mentioned, you'll be leaving very early in the morning, and driving unfamiliar single lane roads after dark. Especially after long flights, not everyone is up to that.
 
I'm leaving Kruger in about an hour or so on the way back to joberg is there a shorter way to do the panorama drive? I'd like to make it back before the restaurants close (8ish)
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1277 on: July 31, 2018, 04:18:19 AM »
I'm leaving Kruger in about an hour or so on the way back to joberg is there a shorter way to do the panorama drive? I'd like to make it back before the restaurants close (8ish)

Where are you leaving from?
Are you near Satara and want to go past G-d's Window and Blyde River Canyon? You should have plenty time to get back to JNB, some places close at 21:30: eg. Friends Kitchen & RTG (midnight on Thursday)

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1278 on: July 31, 2018, 04:20:34 AM »
Where are you leaving from?
Are you near Satara and want to go past G-d's Window and Blyde River Canyon? You should have plenty time to get back to JNB, some places close at 21:30: eg. Friends Kitchen & RTG (midnight on Thursday)
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1279 on: July 31, 2018, 04:25:30 AM »
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It's about 3 hours from there to Blyde River and from there 6 hours to Joburg
Even if you don't want to get to Joburg for supper you need to be past Nelspruit before dark as it is a bit dangerous on those roads around Bush Buck Ridge.
Suggest to skip Blyde River and leave for Joburg now.

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« Reply #1280 on: July 31, 2018, 04:32:33 AM »
I'm leaving Kruger in about an hour or so on the way back to joberg is there a shorter way to do the panorama drive? I'd like to make it back before the restaurants close (8ish)
Just made this (Panorama Route - Wiz https://goo.gl/maps/fBR7UxWCrus) on google maps for you of places that I was told to visit or had read about for stops on or near the panoramic route.

I just visited most of them when I was there a month or so ago and will hopefully provide more detail in the trip report. IMO 3 Rondavels View Point was by far the best stop.

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1281 on: July 31, 2018, 04:35:13 AM »
Just made this (Panorama Route - Wiz https://goo.gl/maps/fBR7UxWCrus) on google maps now for you of places that I was told to visit or had read about for stops on or near the panoramic route. I just visited most of them when there a month or so ago and will hopefully provide more detail in the trip report. IMO 3 Rondavels View Point was by far the best stop.
thanks a ton
Kudos to @Wizmanison !
Constantly helping me with this trip and even creating a map specifically for me!
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1282 on: July 31, 2018, 04:37:14 AM »
Mayke the safe yet boring ride home better by making a stop at "Alzu Pertroport" Middleberg.
It is a lovely petrol station plus they have a small game park which you can view from the toilets
Definitely the best place to stop on the DIRECT way from Kruger to Joburg
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« Reply #1283 on: July 31, 2018, 07:47:28 AM »
Mayke the safe yet boring ride home better by making a stop at "Alzu Pertroport" Middleberg.
It is a lovely petrol station plus they have a small game park which you can view from the toilets
Definitely the best place to stop on the DIRECT way from Kruger to Joburg
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1284 on: July 31, 2018, 09:57:35 AM »
Just made this (Panorama Route - Wiz https://goo.gl/maps/fBR7UxWCrus) on google maps for you of places that I was told to visit or had read about for stops on or near the panoramic route.

I just visited most of them when I was there a month or so ago and will hopefully provide more detail in the trip report. IMO 3 Rondavels View Point was by far the best stop.
breathtaking!
Enjoyed the potholes as well.
Wander view was nice as well
God's window was cloudy so didn't really enjoy
The Pinnacle was a dud.

On way to the petrol station, eta about an hour.


Now for supper has anyone tried Nandos?
It's either that or the deli store
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1285 on: July 31, 2018, 10:09:31 AM »
Nandos Kosher for sure - been many times, almost every time I'm in Joburg I have 1 lunch there
Deli Store - went once, haven't returned

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1286 on: July 31, 2018, 01:50:34 PM »
Nandos Kosher for sure - been many times, almost every time I'm in Joburg I have 1 lunch there
Deli Store - went once, haven't returned
any recommendations?
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1287 on: July 31, 2018, 02:22:56 PM »
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Chicken steak - the 1/4 or 1/2 chicken meal is often dry and chickens are small.
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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1288 on: July 31, 2018, 02:57:58 PM »
Everyone -

Has anyone ever stayed at any of the kosher safaris in South Africa (Etali / Kings, others)? Anyone know the standard of kashrus?

Also - is the area around Genesis hotel safe to walk around at night?

Thank you

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Re: South Africa Master Thread
« Reply #1289 on: July 31, 2018, 03:03:41 PM »
Everyone -

Has anyone ever stayed at any of the kosher safaris in South Africa (Etali / Kings, others)? Anyone know the standard of kashrus?

Also - is the area around Genesis hotel safe to walk around at night?

Thank you

I walked around Genesis (amazing hotel) at night and felt comfortable. Was told by the locals that the crimes don’t really occur as much in that area and there are guards around at night.